Victor nage

gungfuhero · 11-10-2000, 02:45 AM

Whenever I do Victor Nage, as I'm halfway through my roll, my sparring partner drops strait down and mounts me or takes my back. Any ideas how I can prevent this or fix my throw?

Ryu (non-working password · 11-10-2000, 04:05 AM

I'm somewhat familiar with judo terms, but I don't think I've heard of that. What is Victor nage?
Explain the throw, and maybe I can give some advice

Either that or JG, he's more of an authority than I am.

Ryu

The Colonie Crusher · 11-10-2000, 06:13 AM

Punch him in the face.

bobby_steeles · 11-10-2000, 06:31 PM

colonie crusher = gerard gordeau?

gungfuhero · 11-11-2000, 01:49 AM

In victor nage you have your opponent in a side headlock with your near leg between his. You dive roll forward taking him with you the end result being that his leg is in a near perfect position to apply a knee bar. There is another variation where you roll to the side.

I'm not sure, but I think that it's a Shoot wrestling throw (possibly having a Sombo origen?).

Ryu (non-working password · 11-11-2000, 01:53 AM

Ah, I know what you are talking about. Yeah, it's from sambo. Well the whole point of that move is surprise. If the guy knows it's coming, you shouldn't try it.
Only thing I could advise is to work on tucking your head in and rolling without hesitation. Do the move as much as you can so that it becomes instinctual. If you're throwing it on someone, remember that surprise and experience are probably the major factors of that one. It's a pretty advanced move. I've seen it fail more times then succeed.

Good training to you.

Ryu

duchman · 11-11-2000, 09:45 AM

i think you guys mean the victors roll

gungfuhero · 11-11-2000, 08:07 PM

I haven't heard it called that before, but "victor's roll" is a more accurate name.

duchman · 11-12-2000, 10:19 AM

You should ask scott sonnon/amerross. He is in russia right but he wil be back next month or so.

11-10-2000, 04:05 AM	#2 (permalink)
Ryu (non-working password Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 1,269 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm somewhat familiar with judo terms, but I don't think I've heard of that. What is Victor nage? Explain the throw, and maybe I can give some advice Either that or JG, he's more of an authority than I am. Ryu __________________ [img] http://www.angelfire.com/anime/gohandbz11/fdeath.gif[/img] Hontoo da to iu koto o mitomenakereba narimasen.

11-10-2000, 06:13 AM	#3 (permalink)
The Colonie Crusher Novice Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 157 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Punch him in the face. __________________ 95% of all fights may end up going to the ground, but 100% of all fights start standing up.

11-11-2000, 01:53 AM	#6 (permalink)
Ryu (non-working password Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 1,269 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ah, I know what you are talking about. Yeah, it's from sambo. Well the whole point of that move is surprise. If the guy knows it's coming, you shouldn't try it. Only thing I could advise is to work on tucking your head in and rolling without hesitation. Do the move as much as you can so that it becomes instinctual. If you're throwing it on someone, remember that surprise and experience are probably the major factors of that one. It's a pretty advanced move. I've seen it fail more times then succeed. Good training to you. Ryu __________________ [img] http://www.angelfire.com/anime/gohandbz11/fdeath.gif[/img] Hontoo da to iu koto o mitomenakereba narimasen.

11-11-2000, 09:45 AM	#7 (permalink)
duchman Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: holland Posts: 1,034 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	i think you guys mean the victors roll __________________ Aaron "Duchman" Karels

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11-10-2000, 02:45 AM	#1 (permalink)
gungfuhero Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Bloomington IN Posts: 317 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Whenever I do Victor Nage, as I'm halfway through my roll, my sparring partner drops strait down and mounts me or takes my back. Any ideas how I can prevent this or fix my throw?

11-10-2000, 06:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
bobby_steeles Advanced Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: in front of my computer Posts: 650 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	colonie crusher = gerard gordeau?

11-11-2000, 01:49 AM	#5 (permalink)
gungfuhero Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Bloomington IN Posts: 317 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	In victor nage you have your opponent in a side headlock with your near leg between his. You dive roll forward taking him with you the end result being that his leg is in a near perfect position to apply a knee bar. There is another variation where you roll to the side. I'm not sure, but I think that it's a Shoot wrestling throw (possibly having a Sombo origen?).

11-11-2000, 08:07 PM	#8 (permalink)
gungfuhero Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Bloomington IN Posts: 317 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I haven't heard it called that before, but "victor's roll" is a more accurate name.

11-12-2000, 10:19 AM	#9 (permalink)
duchman Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: holland Posts: 1,034 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	You should ask scott sonnon/amerross. He is in russia right but he wil be back next month or so.

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