UFC Rules favour BJJ? - Page 2

crazyjoe380 · 05-05-2003, 01:45 AM

yes.. i think that rule is gay but .. i guess.. pride's rules.. but pride is still the best

smash · 05-05-2003, 04:05 AM

UFC rules favor BJJ? Yes, and submission fighters too. I've seen several attempts at armsbars and the guy on the receiving end pulls his arm and stands up, the BJJ/submission fighter being raised off the ground sometimes in an attempt at escape. Kicking the head or stomping on the face is an easier way to escape or even dropping the knee on the face. But kicking a down fighter is prohibited.

Toudiyama · 05-05-2003, 05:24 AM

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Originally posted by crazyjoe380
yes.. i think that rule is gay but .. i guess.. pride's rules.. but pride is still the best

One of the reasons I like Pride more than UFC is the sportmanship after the fight is over( not talking about Vandelei Silva and Jackson )
You can see the concern of the opponent when someone has been knocked or choked out

On top of that the comments from Bas Rutten, kick ass

DRLashambe · 05-05-2003, 10:47 AM

Smash:

I don't know if you've been put in an armbar, but standing up just puts more pressure on it. I can't imagine being able to throw a kick or step down with a stomp if someone's putting that kind of pressure on my elbow. I do agree, however, that the kick would be illegal, so the there does seem to be favoritism there.

Nick · 05-05-2003, 11:06 AM

Before the armbar is locked in you can bend your elbow or move around quickly and stand up.

DRLashambe · 05-05-2003, 01:04 PM

I agree, Nick, but once you've stood up, you've allowed your opponent's entire weight to come into play. Unless you're strong enough to curl a man's body weight with one arm, it's over.

Crouchtig · 05-05-2003, 03:33 PM

now thats funny

but serioulsy this guy needs some serious ass-banning

DRLashambe · 05-05-2003, 04:28 PM

unholyaardvark:

Despite the myriad of compliments boys give you on your ass, the "clinch" move that you are speaking about has more to do with prison showers than it does the UFC. Although, I am quite sure that you're a champ in the competition you're involved in.

Lost Ronin · 05-13-2003, 04:02 PM

Although I see the points that many of you guys have made, I have to remind you of the fact that striking is deemed more dangerous than grappling so they put more restrictions on strikers that they do on grapplers. It's not really favoritism, it's nothing more than precautions against possible accidents. I strike and grapple, and I can tell you, when I spar my MT or Kyokushin buddies we have to wear face gear, shin guards, and gloves (to say the least), now think of going to wrestling practice, all you need is some shoes and maybe some ear guards or knee pads and you're fine! I think many strikers have to work on their wrestling more. Think of most of the champions in the UFC right now, Tito Ortiz is an awesome wrestler, Matt Hughes is an amazing grappler, Murilo Bustamante is a BJJ expert. All of these guys win because they can control the tide of battle, so in essence, just because you are good at submissions doesn't mean that you are gonna win, your takedowns and takedown defense are the deciding factor in MMA. Chuck Liddel is an amazing striker, but the only reason he wins is because he can't be taken down, he's also a good wrestler. Sorry for my rambling, it's just one of my favorite subjects

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05-05-2003, 01:45 AM	#16 (permalink)
crazyjoe380 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,368 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	yes.. i think that rule is gay but .. i guess.. pride's rules.. but pride is still the best __________________

05-05-2003, 11:06 AM	#20 (permalink)
Nick Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 194 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	... Before the armbar is locked in you can bend your elbow or move around quickly and stand up.

05-13-2003, 04:02 PM	#24 (permalink)
Lost Ronin Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 125 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Many good points here... Although I see the points that many of you guys have made, I have to remind you of the fact that striking is deemed more dangerous than grappling so they put more restrictions on strikers that they do on grapplers. It's not really favoritism, it's nothing more than precautions against possible accidents. I strike and grapple, and I can tell you, when I spar my MT or Kyokushin buddies we have to wear face gear, shin guards, and gloves (to say the least), now think of going to wrestling practice, all you need is some shoes and maybe some ear guards or knee pads and you're fine! I think many strikers have to work on their wrestling more. Think of most of the champions in the UFC right now, Tito Ortiz is an awesome wrestler, Matt Hughes is an amazing grappler, Murilo Bustamante is a BJJ expert. All of these guys win because they can control the tide of battle, so in essence, just because you are good at submissions doesn't mean that you are gonna win, your takedowns and takedown defense are the deciding factor in MMA. Chuck Liddel is an amazing striker, but the only reason he wins is because he can't be taken down, he's also a good wrestler. Sorry for my rambling, it's just one of my favorite subjects . __________________ " If you are in the right then you can afford to keep your temper, If you are in the wrong then you cannot afford to lose it." Mahatma Gandhi

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05-05-2003, 04:05 AM	#17 (permalink)
smash Novice Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: ring Posts: 11 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	UFC rules favor BJJ? Yes, and submission fighters too. I've seen several attempts at armsbars and the guy on the receiving end pulls his arm and stands up, the BJJ/submission fighter being raised off the ground sometimes in an attempt at escape. Kicking the head or stomping on the face is an easier way to escape or even dropping the knee on the face. But kicking a down fighter is prohibited.

05-05-2003, 10:47 AM	#19 (permalink)
DRLashambe Novice Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 99 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Smash: I don't know if you've been put in an armbar, but standing up just puts more pressure on it. I can't imagine being able to throw a kick or step down with a stomp if someone's putting that kind of pressure on my elbow. I do agree, however, that the kick would be illegal, so the there does seem to be favoritism there.

05-05-2003, 01:04 PM	#21 (permalink)
DRLashambe Novice Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 99 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I agree, Nick, but once you've stood up, you've allowed your opponent's entire weight to come into play. Unless you're strong enough to curl a man's body weight with one arm, it's over.

05-05-2003, 03:33 PM	#22 (permalink)
Crouchtig Novice Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: UK (Manchester) Posts: 184 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	now thats funny but serioulsy this guy needs some serious ass-banning

05-05-2003, 04:28 PM	#23 (permalink)
DRLashambe Novice Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 99 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	unholyaardvark: Despite the myriad of compliments boys give you on your ass, the "clinch" move that you are speaking about has more to do with prison showers than it does the UFC. Although, I am quite sure that you're a champ in the competition you're involved in.

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