Pressure points and deadly strikes

And none of it stands up to a fight.

[Toudiyama]

DRLashambe

I was talking about AccuPuncture which is used in regular hospitals in my country,
The chinese do operation using Accupuncture as anasthetics
Want to see you do that if it doesn't work
Fact is that we do not understand HOW it works but we can see THAT it works ( I don't know how asperine works too but it does)

[Lizard]

"If it works then it doesn't matter how" I would disagree, if it works then you should try to understand it. That way you could learn to maximise it's affect. It could be a placebo, in which case giving someone a bottle of water labled CHI MEDICINE WILL CURE ANY ILLNESS would be much cheaper and just as effective. also "I'm not affraid of death. I'm not affraid of pain. I know that if someone did something to me, they would get it back 100x worse. " you lie. If I chop one of your arms off you would have to chop 100 of my arms off. I think you would have a problem. Also it doesn't matter how good your teacher is unless all you're interested in is boasting over the internet, what matters most to me is HOW GOOD CAN THEY MAKE ME?

[DRLashambe]

Again, this isn't the place to discuss this, but there are more experiments showing that it doesn't work than experiments showing that it does. Have a read of http://skepdic.com for some examples.

[terry]

All this talk about pressure points got me thinking about the following question: Where would you hit somebody if you really wanted to hurt him and had just one spot to hit? I couldn't help but think of a friend of mine who just got divorced--from a divorce attorney. Ouch. The pocketbook hurts for sure.

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[Lizard]

Yes but causing financial pain won't win you the fight. Or would it? If you hit me Ill sue you for everything you've got. I'll try that next time.

[Disciple]

I am new to the forum, but thought I might lend my 2 cents to this discussion.

I believe pressure points to be very useful in certain combat siuations, especially those in which grappling is involved or when you are attempting to control an assailant.

Every system in the human body is controlled by your nervous system. There are sensory/motor nerves which control muscle movement and sensation(pain/heat-cold sensation/and proprioception) and the autonomic nervous system which controls physiologic homeostasis(breathing, maintainence of blood pressure, heart rate, etc).

In my line of work I see patients all day in a hospital and clinic setting who have sustained various types of nerve injuries. Many of the physical symptoms involve paresthesias, weakness, shooting pain, sensory deficits and loss of motor control of the involved limbs/muscles. I'm sure many of you have heard of carpal tunnel syndrome and lumbar disc herniation.

I have also seen many patients with autonomic dysfunction. For example, end stage diabetics often suffer from gastroparesis(their stomach/intestines do not empty properly because of nerve damage). Cauda Equina Syndrome(massive central lumbar disc herniation) causes immediate numbess in the groin area along with loss of bowel and bladder control. The first maneuver indicated (btefore IV meds) to treat someone in supraventricular tachycardia(rapid heart rate) is carotid massage, to slow the heart rate via the vagus nerve. These are only three examples of possibly hundreds.

I am not saying that an attacker can be neutralized with a touch to a certain points on the body. But I do think that pressure points have a place in real combat. Of course variables come into play such as grip strength, attacker's tolerance to pain, the influence of drugs, how hard the intended area of the body is hit, and to what extent the strike penetrates.

[platinum_angel]

good post disciple.

i've currently gotten into the summer wrestling program and i have already found a pressure point that is useful

for instance is someone has their arm around you and they are about to throw you. the way you peel them off is to put their hand grip on your waist and press on their palm with your thumbs and pop your hip then turn around quikly.