unusual techniques

[Lizard]

Many martial arts contain straight punches to the face, roundhouse kicks and perhaps a few simple throws. But every so often I see a strange and imaginative technique. Most will not work in a real fight but are interesting to watch. Spinning and jumping moves are quite unusual, also things like using the legs to throw someone, feints, double hand moves, moves that involve throwing yourself to the floor, offensive blocks, standing submissions, holding an opponents arm then using a hook kick over the arm to pull them to the floor, using a hook kick to lock behind an opponent's head and choke them, punches to a floored opponent, wide stances, high kicks, shouting at an opponent, sticky hands (as found in wing chun), arm twist throws, axe kicks etc. Does anyone have any examples of unusual teniques and possible uses for them (to impress people or scare an opponent for instance).

[Lizard]

Finger strikes, headbutts, double hand blocks. Just a few more.

[Azzazzin]

When I took Tae Kwon Do, I used the axe kick alot, because I could kick high, and bring my heel down really fast...

One time I droped my heel on one guy'd trap, and he dropped like a rock, and was down for at least 10 min because of pain...

You all might think this kick sucks, but I think it's really good. Most people would never expect this kick, and when it connects, it's amazing...

[Lizard]

If you can use it then that's great. It is unexpected and certainly looks impressive. Might be effective on short people.

[DRLashambe]

Not that unexpected. My reaction to all high kicks is to shoot for the remaining leg. That's why traditional martial artists have so much trouble with grapplers and Muay Thai fighters, they're too used to kicking high.

[Lizard]

It depends on whether the person you're fighting does MA. If not then kick away.

[Tom Yum]

Spinning back kick - I could pull it off pretty fast at the end of a combo. I don't practice it much today, but have thrown it with success from time to time.

[Disciple]

I have seen and do know people with enough skill to kick someone in the head, even in a street fight. It does work, but it's what I like to call an unnessecary risk. When your life is on the line, why use the fancier/cooler technique when a simpler more safe one will do.

[ryanhall]

I always thought it was a waste of time to practice something that was:
1) hard to learn
2) hard to perform
3) will never be used
4) is high maintenance if I want to continute to have the ability to do it

Why do all that when I could spend my time learning something simple and functional? I know a few people who are into this kind of acrobatic stuff. Some of them think they can pull it off in a fight--not gonna happen. It comes down to whether you consider yourself a martial artist/fighter or a martial gymnast.

[Toudiyama]

Ryanhall

In my country a lot of guys would just do karate for the matchs (point WKF type) and just train for those matches, in these type of matches a difficult kick will be more likely to score a full point(in a 3 point system ) than an easy technique. ( this is actually in the rulebook )
As for forms, we do not have a setup like in the states where the forms have nothing to do with fighting at all ( at least the old form had some relation) and because of this you won't see someone kicking a totally vertical roundhouse to show of flexibility
or things like that
You train according to the rules of the game, if the rules allow certain things then by all means use them if you can make them score
What's diificult for you to learn and perform might be a piece of cake for others

[EnterSandman]

Toudiyama:

That is the difference between a "sport" and a "street fight". The rules of engagement are competely different. If the goal of a fighter is to score points, a difficult spin kick to the head might be a risk worth taking to win the fight BASED ON POINTS.

But, in a real fight, a street fight... where the goal is either to kick your opponents ass or to keep your own ass from getting kicked in, high kicks, spin kicks or jump kicks can put you in a postion of unneccesary risk and harm.

In a street fight, why would you do any move, stance or tactic that has a lower percentage of success?

[Lizard]

"In a street fight, why would you do any move, stance or tactic that has a lower percentage of success?" because it looks good. Life isn't worth living if you don't take risks. You can pretend you are in the matrix. A person who can do a flying spin kick will say to themselves "I'm so glad I learned to do a flying spin kick" and they will be happy, more flexible and will be able to impress their friends. The fact that these moves are not useful in a real fight is not in dispute.

[Lizard]

One day I might make my own style. The aim will not be for self-defence. It will focus on moves that are unusual/difficult to perform. It will be fun, good excersise and will look good. The sparring will resemble kung-fu films/the matrix. Demonstrations will be spectacular, using special effects and a story line. Some ideas for rules: If someone pulls your arm you have to do a sommersault onto the floor like you've just been thrown, if someone does fancy hand movements in slow motion then you have to punch mega slow and allow them to block, if you get hit you have to pause while they finish you off, you can only win by using a flying/ducking/spinning move, if someone does a fireball move you have to act like you've been hit by an invisible fireball (unless you dodge it) Light contact most likely. I will be honest and tell people that it is not for self defence. Belts will be very colourful and interesting. I quote myself:It upsets me that belts are so boring. I would have multi-coloured, stripey belts with shiney stars and symbols. How can people feel satisfied with a one-colour belt? Better yet, allow students to customise thier own belts, each time they go up they are allowed to add more. Example, So your now sixth level, ok you get three colours, six symbols, three of which may be shiney.

What happened to Dinosaur Jitsu then?

Donkey Do more like.......

[Szczepankiewicz]

Half the time I just come to this board to read what Bri Thai writes....