Shoulders, pushups

[Typhoon]

I know I posted about this before, but just wanted to ask again, I have weak shoulders or actually shouller joints so when ever I do pushups I think it hurts them(yes I do, do pushups correctly) so I was wondering if it would make my shoudelrs better if I stop it doesnt really hurt, but I think pushups might be putting enough stress on them that they are weak all the time.

If I do quit doing pushups I def still want to exercise my chest muscle but the reason i do pushups is beacasue I do not want to gain any muscle mass just make them more lean and stronger no mass though( I know that mass helps in strength a lot though) so I was wondering if you guys know any exercise that are like pushups that dont make you gain muscle mass and dont put stress on your shoulders. THX

P.S. My shoulders got that weak from doing a 360 with my arms a lot by hodling two hands and fliping them over all of you who are double jointed I wouldn't advise doing this too many times it made my shoudlers weak real fast.

[kengar]

Keep your elbows tucked in as close to your side as possible, this will relieve pressure from your shoulders. Though you should really be doing strength excercises for you shoulders. I'm not talking about using heavy weights, but getting the muscle and tendons strengthened around the joint. There are specific exercises to do this but I'm not sure if I could accurately describe them on here.

Ken

[Great Sage]

If your shoulders are hurting from doing push-ups, then STOP... No point in aggravating an injury or sore muscles. Let them fully recover before attempting any further training. If the pain persists, seek out a doctor...

My advice is that you should work to improve overall strength, not just one area. If you’re simply working one muscle area, you won’t make great strides since your other muscles aren’t being strengthened. For instance, your shoulders connect to your triceps, biceps, trapezius and lats, etc...

Chances are you’re not going to gain great mass unless you’re consuming large quantities of protein while lifting heavy weights... So I wouldn’t worry about that. If your focus is to develop lean, strong muscles, invest in some light weights.

For shoulders and joints do rotater cup lateral raises: Use very light weights (5-10 lbs) and hold the dumbells in front of you. Your palms are facing towards you and the weights are touching at the ends. Slightly bend your knees and lean forward. Slowing bring the weights up on your sides like you’re making a snowman in the snow... DON’T go too high, just below shoulder level.

Other things to include would be: running, military press with light weights, sit-ups, pull-ups, rope climbing and anything that produces strength resistance. Remember to do high reps (12-15) for leaner muscles.