The Ultimate in Martial Arts

Tiger69 · 11-12-2000, 09:27 PM

That's right boyz'n girls. Sak's lucky streak will end this time I guarentee it! Ryan may not be the best Gracie but he is still a Gracie and I believe he can do the job. Sak is good but I think he is extremely overrated. He can strike but he lacks power, he can grapple but he give away his back too much which is critical thing to do for the BJJer. He was lucky enough to get out of it but the luck will not last long. It's time for the better man to win. Ryan will prove who's the boss in NHB in the name of Gracie! Man... can't wait to see this happen.

YeLLa-TiGeR · 11-12-2000, 09:45 PM

sure whatever. I think Sak will beat Ryan. He has too little experience. Maybe after more than 5 fights, he have a better chance. But fighting the #1 middle weight after ONE fight? I dont think so. Experience is worth alot in the game.

11-12-2000, 09:50 PM

Tiger69:

You are the least interesting troll I have ever seen. Even Soca/Gracie Forever provided me with a few hours of amusement.

C'mon man, push yourself!

I miss you, Joe Manco!

Tiger69 · 11-12-2000, 10:10 PM

Ronin,

Obviously, you have no source to challenge my statement. Losers are always end up calling names when they have nothing to talk about.

HOWARD KIMONOS · 11-12-2000, 10:36 PM

Just a little curious, but how will you guarantee it? Will you put up some type of financial performance bond? Guessing that Sak makes about $100,000.00 per show, will this be the amount of your bond? How will you pay off your guarantee should your prediction not come to pass?

Howard Liu

Karlinhos · 11-12-2000, 11:27 PM

Tiger... sorry man, but Royce had his back... and did nothing. Renzo had his back and got his arm broken.

Yella... bro... as for lack of experience, you can't possibly be serious. Ryan has tons of street fights under his belt! Granted, the majority were not against world class fighters, but he definitely knows what it's like to get hit and to hit. He has fighting experience a lot "nastier" and more unpredictable than referee and rules laden fights. This had to count for SOMETHING! Believe me, I'm not saying that he's gonna win or that it's even gonna be an easy fight for him, but just that he does have experience and is not "green" by any means. We'll all just have to wait and see.

And as for you HOWARD. Get back to The Underground!!! (lol... j/k man... good to see you!)

YeLLa-TiGeR · 11-12-2000, 11:33 PM

I meant experience as in MMA MATCHS. Organized fights are different from brawling in the streets, I doubt he ever had a fight go past 5 min. Not to mention when he was walking down the runway for his FIRST fight, he was hella nervous. Granted he got over it when he stepped in to the ring, how do you he he will feel when he is faced with the BEST??? Im willing to bet most of his encounters in the streets were tomato cans. The toughest guy he ever "faced" was Ismael.

Karlinhos · 11-13-2000, 05:02 AM

Yella... i know for a fact that Ryan went well over 15 minutes in a street-type fight with Tico (the guy who's ear lobe he bit off). I believe that fight actually went about 30 minutes. Now granted, that guy wasn't the best fighter around, but he was right there the whole time, giving it his all.

rockinronnie · 11-13-2000, 05:14 AM

....when the time comes.

Ronnie.

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A straight arm's still a broken arm - Master JPF

L3FTH00K · 11-13-2000, 06:31 AM

I heard that Ryan Gracie was chooked out by Whalid Ismail in some party.

duchman · 11-13-2000, 01:46 PM

sAKU

Tiger69 · 11-13-2000, 05:51 PM

I bet Sak would take this fight lightly since he thinks he's invincible. Ha, not this time sir, Sak will lose big!! Mark my word, Ryan will WIN!!!!

YeLLa-TiGeR · 11-13-2000, 09:03 PM

Karleinhs

Point taken, but the fight was agreed upon and I consider it more of a NHB fight that a street fight, Renzo was by Ryan's side anyway. Permission was asked before biting was allowed. Point is, he doesnt have NEAR the experince in the ring or cage than Sak. That, I feel is a big factor in this fight.

rockinronnie · 11-13-2000, 09:03 PM

...Tiger69??

...what about when he beat Carlos Newton, for one? No Power?? I'm LMAO over that one!

I've seen Newton in person - and believe me, he's got POWER to spare! And if that's the case, what's Sakurabas excuse?

Ronnie.

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A straight arm's still a broken arm - Master JPF

rockinronnie · 11-13-2000, 09:08 PM

....he has plenty of experience (lets not forget - he's a GRACIE)...

...I'd also like to see him pull off this win...but...
I don't think this is the Gracie that will be the one to
do it...at least, not yet.

HEY, I could be wrong....

Ronnie.
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A straight arm's still a broken arm - Master JPF

11-13-2000, 05:14 AM	#9 (permalink)
rockinronnie Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Posts: 237 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	We'll see.... ....when the time comes. Ronnie. _________________________________ A straight arm's still a broken arm - Master JPF

11-13-2000, 01:46 PM	#11 (permalink)
duchman Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: holland Posts: 1,034 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	sAKU __________________ Aaron "Duchman" Karels

11-13-2000, 09:03 PM	#14 (permalink)
rockinronnie Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Posts: 237 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	....Sak has NO POWER? ...Tiger69?? ...what about when he beat Carlos Newton, for one? No Power?? I'm LMAO over that one! I've seen Newton in person - and believe me, he's got POWER to spare! And if that's the case, what's Sakurabas excuse? Ronnie. _______________________________ A straight arm's still a broken arm - Master JPF

11-13-2000, 09:08 PM	#15 (permalink)
rockinronnie Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Posts: 237 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I LIKE RYAN TOO! ....he has plenty of experience (lets not forget - he's a GRACIE)... ...I'd also like to see him pull off this win...but... I don't think this is the Gracie that will be the one to do it...at least, not yet. HEY, I could be wrong.... Ronnie. ________________________________ A straight arm's still a broken arm - Master JPF

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11-12-2000, 09:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
Tiger69 Novice Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: LA Posts: 77 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	That's right boyz'n girls. Sak's lucky streak will end this time I guarentee it! Ryan may not be the best Gracie but he is still a Gracie and I believe he can do the job. Sak is good but I think he is extremely overrated. He can strike but he lacks power, he can grapple but he give away his back too much which is critical thing to do for the BJJer. He was lucky enough to get out of it but the luck will not last long. It's time for the better man to win. Ryan will prove who's the boss in NHB in the name of Gracie! Man... can't wait to see this happen.

11-12-2000, 09:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
YeLLa-TiGeR Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Boston Posts: 1,148 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	sure whatever. I think Sak will beat Ryan. He has too little experience. Maybe after more than 5 fights, he have a better chance. But fighting the #1 middle weight after ONE fight? I dont think so. Experience is worth alot in the game.

11-12-2000, 09:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ronin Guest Posts: n/a	Tiger69: You are the least interesting troll I have ever seen. Even Soca/Gracie Forever provided me with a few hours of amusement. C'mon man, push yourself! I miss you, Joe Manco!

11-12-2000, 10:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
Tiger69 Novice Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: LA Posts: 77 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ronin, Obviously, you have no source to challenge my statement. Losers are always end up calling names when they have nothing to talk about.

11-12-2000, 10:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
HOWARD KIMONOS Registered User Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Gardena,Ca.USA Posts: 382 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just a little curious, but how will you guarantee it? Will you put up some type of financial performance bond? Guessing that Sak makes about $100,000.00 per show, will this be the amount of your bond? How will you pay off your guarantee should your prediction not come to pass? Howard Liu

11-12-2000, 11:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
Karlinhos Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 650 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Tiger... sorry man, but Royce had his back... and did nothing. Renzo had his back and got his arm broken. Yella... bro... as for lack of experience, you can't possibly be serious. Ryan has tons of street fights under his belt! Granted, the majority were not against world class fighters, but he definitely knows what it's like to get hit and to hit. He has fighting experience a lot "nastier" and more unpredictable than referee and rules laden fights. This had to count for SOMETHING! Believe me, I'm not saying that he's gonna win or that it's even gonna be an easy fight for him, but just that he does have experience and is not "green" by any means. We'll all just have to wait and see. And as for you HOWARD. Get back to The Underground!!! (lol... j/k man... good to see you!)

11-12-2000, 11:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
YeLLa-TiGeR Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Boston Posts: 1,148 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I meant experience as in MMA MATCHS. Organized fights are different from brawling in the streets, I doubt he ever had a fight go past 5 min. Not to mention when he was walking down the runway for his FIRST fight, he was hella nervous. Granted he got over it when he stepped in to the ring, how do you he he will feel when he is faced with the BEST??? Im willing to bet most of his encounters in the streets were tomato cans. The toughest guy he ever "faced" was Ismael.

11-13-2000, 05:02 AM	#8 (permalink)
Karlinhos Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 650 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yella... i know for a fact that Ryan went well over 15 minutes in a street-type fight with Tico (the guy who's ear lobe he bit off). I believe that fight actually went about 30 minutes. Now granted, that guy wasn't the best fighter around, but he was right there the whole time, giving it his all.

11-13-2000, 06:31 AM	#10 (permalink)
L3FTH00K Novice Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 70 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I heard that Ryan Gracie was chooked out by Whalid Ismail in some party.

11-13-2000, 05:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
Tiger69 Novice Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: LA Posts: 77 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I bet Sak would take this fight lightly since he thinks he's invincible. Ha, not this time sir, Sak will lose big!! Mark my word, Ryan will WIN!!!!

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11-13-2000, 09:03 PM	#13 (permalink)
YeLLa-TiGeR Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Boston Posts: 1,148 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Karleinhs Point taken, but the fight was agreed upon and I consider it more of a NHB fight that a street fight, Renzo was by Ryan's side anyway. Permission was asked before biting was allowed. Point is, he doesnt have NEAR the experince in the ring or cage than Sak. That, I feel is a big factor in this fight.