Your opinion on Bas Rutten

Toudiyama[NL] · 06-11-2003, 06:59 AM

Hi people,

the more footage I see of Bas Rutten, the more impressed I am
Why? well not because he is a dutchman but because he is so versatile, I see him change tactics during the fights all the time And his devistating palmheelstrikes

Don't get me wrong, I do not think he is the best fighter but the most versatile and one of the nicest fighters to watch ( or to listen to at Pride)

What's your opinion about Bas?

JIMI · 06-11-2003, 10:09 AM

He's a puss. Nuff said.

Tom Yum · 06-11-2003, 10:19 AM

From what I've seen, he is a very intelligent fighter. He beat Kevin Randleman and Kosaka from the earlier UFCs. I saw part of his match with Frank Shamrock in pride, but did not see the outcome. Randleman was clearly the superior athlete compared to Rutten, while Kosaka dominated most of the match to only get KOd later by Rutten.

Great Sage · 06-11-2003, 10:37 AM

Bas is a tough individual, but he's not the toughest... He's had trouble with grapplers, but always finds a way to come back.

I thought Kevin Randleman clearly won the match with Bas. Randleman dominated the entire match and Rutten won the decision even though he had a broken nose and wore a defeated look. In boxing, such a decision is hardly made, except in the course of De La Hoya and Trinidad... The Champion usually retains his belt unless the challenger clearly, without doubt has shown himself the better fighter...

Toudiyama[NL] · 06-11-2003, 11:02 AM

Frank Shamrock fight was Pancrase

Like I said He ain't the toughest dude around but I'm amazed at how he switches from one tactic to another
And how hard the palmheelstrikes of him seem to be (ask Frank)
Especially in his early MMA days he didn't have much groundfighting skills but lateron he did

After he lost to Ken Shamrock as a result of a toehold, he started to train a lot on groundfighting skills

His fights are nice to watch, in reallife totally nonimportant but in MMA wich is both sport and entertainment it is

Other fighters I like for the same reason, even if they do not win are Sakuraba and Genki Sudo ( the latter because he does such strange things and really goes for the entertainment)

I don't like fights that end in the first of 12 rounds (boxing) like those of Tyson, you paid a lot of money to see him fight and it's over within 3 minutes

Tom Yum · 06-11-2003, 12:16 PM

Did you see the De la hoya / Vargas Fight or Hoost /Mo. Smith? Those were good fights.

Others are clearly less entertaining...Tua/Rahman (Rahman got robbed despite landing more shots), Tyson/Etienne, Tyson/Mcnealy, Tyson/Spinks etc...

SweepEm · 06-12-2003, 02:22 AM

Bas Rutten is a great guy.

As a person, he is the life of the party.
There's a great story about him in a bar, drinking up a storm. He was so rowdy that a few of the bouncers decided to ask him to leave. Their mistake was that they tried to teach this obnoxious guy a lesson on the way out the door...

As an instructor, Bas is huge. He gets you up to go beyond yourself. When others will let you quit, he inspires you to keep going, to get that extra step. Not an easy task.

As a fighter, he's a tough guy. Sure, he may not be the toughest but I certainly admire him for his guts.
When I was at Bevely Hills Jiu Jitsu training with him and others, he took a fight in Japan, was injured pretty bad, and still won.

Anyone that says something bad about Bas (besides those bouncers) really don't know him......

salamat po · 06-12-2003, 09:51 AM

"He's a puss. Nuff said." Posted by JIMI

Why don't you fight him then?!

MORON

Tim Mousel · 06-13-2003, 12:11 AM

SweepEm is right. Bas is definitely the life of a party. He's also a great guy and is willing to go above and beyond the call of duty to help.

He's also a very, very tough guy. There aren't many people that would come out on top in a 'real' fight with him.

Tim

Toudiyama[NL] · 06-13-2003, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tim Mousel
SweepEm is right. Bas is definitely the life of a party. He's also a great guy and is willing to go above and beyond the call of duty to help.

He's also a very, very tough guy. There aren't many people that would come out on top in a 'real' fight with him.

Tim

Shure as h**l not the swedish bouncers

btw he wasn't drunk when that hapened but was dancing in House music style, which seems to be forbidden in that place
I would have sued the bouncers socks of (for sticking a finger in the eye a second time)

06-11-2003, 06:59 AM	#1 (permalink)
Toudiyama[NL] Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Zaandam, Netherlands Posts: 1,389 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Your opinion on Bas Rutten Hi people, the more footage I see of Bas Rutten, the more impressed I am Why? well not because he is a dutchman but because he is so versatile, I see him change tactics during the fights all the time And his devistating palmheelstrikes Don't get me wrong, I do not think he is the best fighter but the most versatile and one of the nicest fighters to watch ( or to listen to at Pride) What's your opinion about Bas? __________________

06-11-2003, 10:09 AM	#2 (permalink)
JIMI Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: salt lake city Posts: 328 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	He's a puss. Nuff said. __________________ Hit first, Hit last, Always answer back....

06-11-2003, 10:19 AM	#3 (permalink)
Tom Yum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here and there. Posts: 11,307 Groans: 1 Groaned at 4 Times in 4 Posts	From what I've seen, he is a very intelligent fighter. He beat Kevin Randleman and Kosaka from the earlier UFCs. I saw part of his match with Frank Shamrock in pride, but did not see the outcome. Randleman was clearly the superior athlete compared to Rutten, while Kosaka dominated most of the match to only get KOd later by Rutten. __________________ Love it, leave it or fix it.

06-11-2003, 10:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
Great Sage Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Nowhere, USA... Posts: 510 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bas is a tough individual, but he's not the toughest... He's had trouble with grapplers, but always finds a way to come back. I thought Kevin Randleman clearly won the match with Bas. Randleman dominated the entire match and Rutten won the decision even though he had a broken nose and wore a defeated look. In boxing, such a decision is hardly made, except in the course of De La Hoya and Trinidad... The Champion usually retains his belt unless the challenger clearly, without doubt has shown himself the better fighter... __________________ The sage experiences without abstraction, And accomplishes without action; He accepts the ebb and flow of things, Nurtures them, but does not own them, And lives, but does not dwell.

06-11-2003, 11:02 AM	#5 (permalink)
Toudiyama[NL] Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Zaandam, Netherlands Posts: 1,389 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Frank Shamrock fight was Pancrase Like I said He ain't the toughest dude around but I'm amazed at how he switches from one tactic to another And how hard the palmheelstrikes of him seem to be (ask Frank) Especially in his early MMA days he didn't have much groundfighting skills but lateron he did After he lost to Ken Shamrock as a result of a toehold, he started to train a lot on groundfighting skills His fights are nice to watch, in reallife totally nonimportant but in MMA wich is both sport and entertainment it is Other fighters I like for the same reason, even if they do not win are Sakuraba and Genki Sudo ( the latter because he does such strange things and really goes for the entertainment) I don't like fights that end in the first of 12 rounds (boxing) like those of Tyson, you paid a lot of money to see him fight and it's over within 3 minutes __________________

06-11-2003, 12:16 PM	#6 (permalink)
Tom Yum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here and there. Posts: 11,307 Groans: 1 Groaned at 4 Times in 4 Posts	Did you see the De la hoya / Vargas Fight or Hoost /Mo. Smith? Those were good fights. Others are clearly less entertaining...Tua/Rahman (Rahman got robbed despite landing more shots), Tyson/Etienne, Tyson/Mcnealy, Tyson/Spinks etc... __________________ Love it, leave it or fix it.

06-12-2003, 02:22 AM	#7 (permalink)
SweepEm Master Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,846 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bas Rutten is a great guy. As a person, he is the life of the party. There's a great story about him in a bar, drinking up a storm. He was so rowdy that a few of the bouncers decided to ask him to leave. Their mistake was that they tried to teach this obnoxious guy a lesson on the way out the door... As an instructor, Bas is huge. He gets you up to go beyond yourself. When others will let you quit, he inspires you to keep going, to get that extra step. Not an easy task. As a fighter, he's a tough guy. Sure, he may not be the toughest but I certainly admire him for his guts. When I was at Bevely Hills Jiu Jitsu training with him and others, he took a fight in Japan, was injured pretty bad, and still won. Anyone that says something bad about Bas (besides those bouncers) really don't know him......

06-12-2003, 09:51 AM	#8 (permalink)
salamat po Novice Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: houston Posts: 26 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	"He's a puss. Nuff said." Posted by JIMI Why don't you fight him then?! MORON

06-13-2003, 12:11 AM	#9 (permalink)
Tim Mousel Administrator Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,390 Groans: 0 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post	SweepEm is right. Bas is definitely the life of a party. He's also a great guy and is willing to go above and beyond the call of duty to help. He's also a very, very tough guy. There aren't many people that would come out on top in a 'real' fight with him. Tim

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