Sakuraba and the Gracies....

[Ryu (non-working password]

I hope that IF (and I have my doubts) Kaz will lose a fight with a Gracie or any other BJJ fighter, that he will not instantly be thrown down into a sea of "lucky misfits" by the Gracie-infatuated public. Kazushi Sakuraba has convincingly (if you call making Royce and Rorion cry unlce, and snapping Renzo's arm like a twig "convincingly")beaten THE best Gracies in competition today. A lot of what I see reminds me of the sore loser (like Gore hehe JK!)
saying "best 2 out of 3..best 3 out of 5...best 5 out of 7!" when they cannot for the life of them seem to beat their opponent. Kazushi should and I hope will go down in history as not a guy who got a lucky win on a few Gracies, but truly challenged, beat, and disabled the Gracie's claim to fame. No Gracie should EVER use the 70 years of victory stuff anymore. Unless they include that it was suddenly ended by one little Japanese man named Kazushi Sakuraba

Ryu

[YeLLa-TiGeR]

He wont get beat, and if he does, I'll defend him to the end. Dont worry though, I doubt Sak. will lose this one. His place is already secure in the MMA Hall of Fame. Besides, how can anyone diss a fighter that does a flying guard pass???

I hope in 20 years, Sak will be seen as a legend and as the next Kimura.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Yeah, no way he'll lose this one. By the way, I'm trying to figure out this "70 years" of NHB victory streak thing myself. Didn't Helio lose to Kimura and Santana? Then how can they claim that they were undefeated?

[Ryu (non-working password]

Obviously it didn't count because Helio's "warrior spirit" was greater than Kimura's.....That's what happens when someone breaks your arm in 3 different places, makes your face look like one big mat burn, and squeezes your head so hard with a triangle that you start oozing celebrial fluid out your ears.... Helio sure showed Masahiko that he was more the better warrior that night.

Ryu

[Ronin]

In fairness to Helio, he did show a lot of heart...en route to getting his ass whupped.

That "70 years undefeated" thing is even more meaningless than Rickson's 400 victories in pinball and ping-pong matches.

[Ryu (non-working password]

oops..."cerebral fluid" I meant
(how embarrassing)

[Ronin]

We knew what you meant, Ryu.

[Ryu (non-working password]

they're judging me! They're judging me!!




Ryu

[duchman]

KAZ, is going to win!