Don't learn to do.

**Thai Bri** · 06-12-2003, 11:36 AM

People always prattle on about learning to do a technique. When they can do it, they move on to learn another. This goes on and on until the know how to do a great many.

But they don't know how to APPLY any. If you want to learn how to keep yourself alive when under attack become expert at applying a very small number of attacks. Being able to do a thousand will lead to your downfall. Oh yes.

darrianation · 06-12-2003, 12:06 PM

I totlally agree. See my post on what is Kenpo thread. Basically there are so many different self-defense techniques that it's hard to be good at any of them.

I just have a good solid core of them not many and I can use them very well.

darrianation · 06-12-2003, 12:09 PM

This is an excerpt from my post on kenpo.

Both Chinese and American kenpo/kempo are heavy into self-defense techniques. I cannot vouch for American kenpo but I did study Chinese kenpo and it has a huge amount of complicated techniques For 1dan you have to know some 300 self-defense moves that you have to know both right and left handed and for each there’s a,b,c,d,e versions of them. American kempo isn’t so bad, Ed’ got rid of a few.

Anyway it takes a long time with lots of study to even get the basics. Once learned if learned well (could take a few years) it is pretty effective for self-defense. I personally don’t recommend it, But this is my opinion. I took it for 2 years and I still wasn’t very good at the techniques just because there were so many to learn. It was very frustrating to say the least. The only reason I kept with it for 2 years is the school I was at also taught arnis/eskrima which I really did love. They wouldn't let you take just the Arnis/Eskrima without taking the kenpo.

Lizard · 06-12-2003, 12:12 PM

I completely agree, you need to have a small number of techniques that you know how to use effectively. But you need to have some knowledge in each range. At the very least you should know a technique to help you get out of a range you don't like.

Szczepankiewicz · 06-12-2003, 12:24 PM

Know the technique
Know how to apply the technique in a tense dynamic situation
Know when to apply the technique

Mr. N, you have Lizard's buy in. That's 1/2 of what you need!

06-12-2003, 11:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,423 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Don't learn to do. People always prattle on about learning to do a technique. When they can do it, they move on to learn another. This goes on and on until the know how to do a great many. But they don't know how to APPLY any. If you want to learn how to keep yourself alive when under attack become expert at applying a very small number of attacks. Being able to do a thousand will lead to your downfall. Oh yes.

06-12-2003, 12:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
darrianation Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,161 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I totlally agree. See my post on what is Kenpo thread. Basically there are so many different self-defense techniques that it's hard to be good at any of them. I just have a good solid core of them not many and I can use them very well. __________________ The law of tyranny: 1. Any power that can be abused will be abused 2. Abuse always expands to fill the limits of resistance to it. 3. If people don't resist the abuses of others, they will have no one to resist the abuses of themselves, and tyranny will prevail. Welcome to the Socialist States of Amerika . Coming soon Jan 20th 2009!

06-12-2003, 12:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
darrianation Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,161 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	This is an excerpt from my post on kenpo. Both Chinese and American kenpo/kempo are heavy into self-defense techniques. I cannot vouch for American kenpo but I did study Chinese kenpo and it has a huge amount of complicated techniques For 1dan you have to know some 300 self-defense moves that you have to know both right and left handed and for each there’s a,b,c,d,e versions of them. American kempo isn’t so bad, Ed’ got rid of a few. Anyway it takes a long time with lots of study to even get the basics. Once learned if learned well (could take a few years) it is pretty effective for self-defense. I personally don’t recommend it, But this is my opinion. I took it for 2 years and I still wasn’t very good at the techniques just because there were so many to learn. It was very frustrating to say the least. The only reason I kept with it for 2 years is the school I was at also taught arnis/eskrima which I really did love. They wouldn't let you take just the Arnis/Eskrima without taking the kenpo. __________________ The law of tyranny: 1. Any power that can be abused will be abused 2. Abuse always expands to fill the limits of resistance to it. 3. If people don't resist the abuses of others, they will have no one to resist the abuses of themselves, and tyranny will prevail. Welcome to the Socialist States of Amerika . Coming soon Jan 20th 2009!

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Lizard Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 985 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I completely agree, you need to have a small number of techniques that you know how to use effectively. But you need to have some knowledge in each range. At the very least you should know a technique to help you get out of a range you don't like. Last edited by Lizard; 06-12-2003 at 12:18 PM.

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Szczepankiewicz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Meridian, ID, USA Posts: 4,109 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Know the technique Know how to apply the technique in a tense dynamic situation Know when to apply the technique Mr. N, you have Lizard's buy in. That's 1/2 of what you need!

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