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Old 07-10-2003, 12:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm certified (aka paid, took the weekend course and got some stuff) in one of CDTs levels. I'm going to avoid anything about Tom Patire and will not mention that CDT is also meant to generate additional income for martial arts instructors.

The good:
The premise of CDT is to handle the most likely situations that the majority of people will encounter. That means mostly untrained punks, drunken uncles, obnoxious students and anyone else that's doing something annoying but doesn't deserve a fist in the mouth or a knee to the nuts. For the job for which they're intended the techniques are sound. The system is well thought out to protect those around the user from additional harm, including the person on which the techniques are being used. It borders on paranoia that you are being recorded by a s.c. and gears it's techniques to reflect that.
CDT isn't supposed to replace your martial art but give you more options for when you need a lower level of force.

The bad:
I'll let this one go for now...

The Ugly:
It's pricey.
IMO, even the lowest level of CDT can not be taught and retained over a weekend. The techniques must be trained at least once a week for several months to become natural. The more advanced techniques which are very good should be practiced several times a week to become natural, IMO. Most schools that offer CDT have a once a month practice session which just isn't enough, but a getting into study group helps.
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I've been wondering about CDT. Would it be worth ordering the vid to see some of their stuff?
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One thing that bothers me very much is that in just one week (45 hours) of training and X number of dollars, you too can become a certified instructor.

This is a huge warning sign in my opinion.
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Krav Maga is going the same way
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I've been wondering about CDT. Would it be worth ordering the vid to see some of their stuff?
I didn't care for the video at all. If you can find a CDT instructor in your area ask for a small demonstration. In short CDT uses finger and joint locks, pain compliance and some "strikes" used for stunning.

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One thing that bothers me very much is that in just one week (45 hours) of training and X number of dollars, you too can become a certified instructor.
That's always at least a yellow flag. The instructors that I've met were pretty good with the material. All said that the training was intensive and well done. Time will tell if CDT has good quality control and if the certifications mean something.

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Welcome to the 21st century. MA schools need to make money and not everyone wants to be a kickboxer or study kung fu. Things like KM or CDT lets the school owner offer something for those people. As long as the material is legit and the instructors are good I don't have a problem with it. I do have a problem with seminar formats, where they imply that a 4 hour class will have you fighting off muggers.
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Actually I did a four hour class last year with a guy called Dennis Martin. I really did think it would improve someones chances of fighting off a mugger. It was all very basic and very nasty, just the way it should be. But no one was encouraged to call themselves an instructor.
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