Hung gar, is it good?

AryanBoy4Life · 07-12-2003, 07:36 AM

I havent ever done any martial arts, ever. I have been browsing the internet and saw kung fu, hung gar. i was wondering if this was a good thing to start. I would appreciate any ideas or suggestions.

swan104 · 07-12-2003, 08:22 AM

Hi. I trained in Hung Gar for a few years. Some stuff was ok, but other bits seemed completely useless. It a very "hard" style of kung fu, with emphasis on low stances and hard blocks and attacks.

Pop over there and try it out for yourself. You may love or hate it!

AryanBoy4Life · 07-12-2003, 08:33 AM

what about wing chun? is that any good?

**Thai Bri** · 07-12-2003, 09:43 AM

Depends on the instruction. I trained it 20 years ago and it was crap, like playing patta-cake. I also went to another club (briefly), and it was the same. Admittedly these people were all in the same organisation.

I think it is potentially sound. It has fast moves, simultaneous attack and defence as well as "chi sao", where you work from sensitivity of your opponents movements.

Try a club and see what you think.

AryanBoy4Life · 07-12-2003, 09:47 AM

Ok, i think the easiest thing would be to just ask what the best martial arts is, i have heard bjj, but i want something a little more... unique might be the right word. can anyone help?

Tom Yum · 07-12-2003, 10:09 AM

BJJ is an extremely effective martial art in terms of what you do if you land on the ground. Its stand up grappling is straight forward, but discards alot of techniques from traditional Japanese Jiujitsu. From what I understand, BJJ was refined so that a smaller fighter could take out a larger one - and it has been proven effective more than enough times.

Traditional Japanese Jiujitsu teaches more stand up grappling and nerve strikes. A martial art that deals more in stand up will be more effective in dealing with multiple attackers like 2 or 3 at a time.

Maybe Japanese culture might or might not be of interest to you; read the Hagakure. Its a book based on the principles of the Samurai, his retainer, his role in society and his action/thought process. If you dig it, go for TJJ.

AryanBoy4Life · 07-12-2003, 10:11 AM

alright kewl thx. just to let ever1 know, im 6'1" 205lbs. if that matters with a specific art.

Tom Yum · 07-12-2003, 10:15 AM

I would go with Traditional JJ or Judo. Assuming you are athletic at 6'1" 205lbs and learn proper technique, you will be at an appropriate size to deal with larger/stronger opponents and smaller/faster ones.

**Thai Bri** · 07-12-2003, 10:20 AM

There really is no "best martial art". Taking a number of things from different arts that suit YOU is probably the best way to go.

Start with a grappling art (BJJ or Judo) and mix it with a striking art (Thai/Kickboxing or just Boxing).

AryanBoy4Life · 07-12-2003, 10:23 AM

ok. hey tom yum, what do u take? same with u thai bri, what do u take?

**Thai Bri** · 07-12-2003, 02:04 PM

I've just noticed your name.

I'm not talking to you again until I see some assurances that you're not some sad Nazi style racist knob.

JaredExtreme · 07-12-2003, 04:24 PM

I have found the best counter to Hung-gar is to eat some food !

Lizard · 07-12-2003, 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by JaredExtreme
I have found the best counter to Hung-gar is to eat some food !

Yes I managed to stop myself from making that sort of joke earlier. You should be ashamed of yourself!

RobertG · 07-12-2003, 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by AryanBoy4Life
I havent ever done any martial arts, ever. I have been browsing the internet and saw kung fu, hung gar. i was wondering if this was a good thing to start. I would appreciate any ideas or suggestions.

I think doing some Krav Maga with Israelis would be good for you. They really love Aryan boys. The only idea and suggestion I have for you is to change your damn Nazi name.

mr. bond · 07-12-2003, 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by Thai Bri
Depends on the instruction. I trained it 20 years ago and it was crap, like playing patta-cake. I also went to another club (briefly), and it was the same. Admittedly these people were all in the same organisation.

I think it is potentially sound. It has fast moves, simultaneous attack and defence as well as "chi sao", where you work from sensitivity of your opponents movements.

Try a club and see what you think.

do you know the name of the organization of the "patta-cake" clubs that you attended? i was thinking of giving a WC school at the university i'm going to attend a try, so it would help me out to know.

as for the starter of this thread, go to the worst neighbourhood you know, and proclaim that you're a nazi. that should provide you with all the combat training you need.

07-12-2003, 07:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
AryanBoy4Life Novice Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 6	Hung gar, is it good? I havent ever done any martial arts, ever. I have been browsing the internet and saw kung fu, hung gar. i was wondering if this was a good thing to start. I would appreciate any ideas or suggestions.

07-12-2003, 08:22 AM	#2 (permalink)
swan104 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Stoke-on-Trent/England Posts: 410	Hi. I trained in Hung Gar for a few years. Some stuff was ok, but other bits seemed completely useless. It a very "hard" style of kung fu, with emphasis on low stances and hard blocks and attacks. Pop over there and try it out for yourself. You may love or hate it! __________________ Steven

07-12-2003, 10:09 AM	#6 (permalink)
Tom Yum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here and there. Posts: 11,218	BJJ is an extremely effective martial art in terms of what you do if you land on the ground. Its stand up grappling is straight forward, but discards alot of techniques from traditional Japanese Jiujitsu. From what I understand, BJJ was refined so that a smaller fighter could take out a larger one - and it has been proven effective more than enough times. Traditional Japanese Jiujitsu teaches more stand up grappling and nerve strikes. A martial art that deals more in stand up will be more effective in dealing with multiple attackers like 2 or 3 at a time. Maybe Japanese culture might or might not be of interest to you; read the Hagakure. Its a book based on the principles of the Samurai, his retainer, his role in society and his action/thought process. If you dig it, go for TJJ. __________________ The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know. Slow is fast; fast is slow. Love it, leave it or fix it.

07-12-2003, 10:15 AM	#8 (permalink)
Tom Yum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here and there. Posts: 11,218	I would go with Traditional JJ or Judo. Assuming you are athletic at 6'1" 205lbs and learn proper technique, you will be at an appropriate size to deal with larger/stronger opponents and smaller/faster ones. __________________ The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know. Slow is fast; fast is slow. Love it, leave it or fix it.

07-12-2003, 04:24 PM	#12 (permalink)
JaredExtreme Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,115	I have found the best counter to Hung-gar is to eat some food ! __________________ "I don't fight in the street, there's no mats out there." - JaredExtreme

07-12-2003, 08:33 AM	#3 (permalink)
AryanBoy4Life Novice Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 6	what about wing chun? is that any good?

07-12-2003, 09:43 AM	#4 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,423	Depends on the instruction. I trained it 20 years ago and it was crap, like playing patta-cake. I also went to another club (briefly), and it was the same. Admittedly these people were all in the same organisation. I think it is potentially sound. It has fast moves, simultaneous attack and defence as well as "chi sao", where you work from sensitivity of your opponents movements. Try a club and see what you think.

07-12-2003, 09:47 AM	#5 (permalink)
AryanBoy4Life Novice Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 6	Ok, i think the easiest thing would be to just ask what the best martial arts is, i have heard bjj, but i want something a little more... unique might be the right word. can anyone help?

07-12-2003, 10:11 AM	#7 (permalink)
AryanBoy4Life Novice Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 6	alright kewl thx. just to let ever1 know, im 6'1" 205lbs. if that matters with a specific art.

07-12-2003, 10:20 AM	#9 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,423	There really is no "best martial art". Taking a number of things from different arts that suit YOU is probably the best way to go. Start with a grappling art (BJJ or Judo) and mix it with a striking art (Thai/Kickboxing or just Boxing).

07-12-2003, 10:23 AM	#10 (permalink)
AryanBoy4Life Novice Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 6	ok. hey tom yum, what do u take? same with u thai bri, what do u take?

07-12-2003, 02:04 PM	#11 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,423	I've just noticed your name. I'm not talking to you again until I see some assurances that you're not some sad Nazi style racist knob.

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