if you could

ewod · 07-17-2003, 01:14 AM

pick any 2 martial artists to be the ultimate fight, who would they be? I would love to see seagal take on rickson gracie...it would be a good fight, but I dont really know who would win...I wonder if aikido is effective against a bjj expert...I think that style is not really so much the issue, it really depends on the persons drive and motivation...what does everyone else think? someone can be an awesome aikidoist and someone could be a bad bjj expert...it works both ways I believe...

RobertG · 07-17-2003, 01:20 AM

I think Rickson taps him inside of a minute.

Segal was a very good aikidoka by all accounts (7th Dan??). He was also about 100 lbs. lighter back in the day. Still, I don't think aikido goes a lot of ground work (just some locks from the knees), so if Rickson takes him down, then Segal is pretty much flapping around. End of fight comes quickly after that.

ewod · 07-17-2003, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RobertG
I think Rickson taps him inside of a minute.

Segal was a very good aikidoka by all accounts (7th Dan??). He was also about 100 lbs. lighter back in the day. Still, I don't think aikido goes a lot of ground work (just some locks from the knees), so if Rickson takes him down, then Segal is pretty much flapping around. End of fight comes quickly after that.

yeah, I agree with what youre saying, but about a sadistic man like gene lebell against rickson? I think that might be a tough decision...seagal is a 7th dan...about even bruce lee against rickson?

RobertG · 07-17-2003, 03:04 AM

Here is your answer from Lebell's own website:

Bob Wall, a former world professional karate champion and friend of LeBell's used to bring martial arts stars Chuck Norris and Bruce Lee to train in karate and judo with LeBell. Wall and Norris were co-owners of a karate school. "The first time Lee sparred with Gene, Gene picked him up and held him overhead," says Wall. "Bruce said, 'When you put me down, I'm going to get you,' so Gene just kept him up there a while. Gene is absolutely the toughest man alive."

I think a few years back he kicked Segal's ass on the set because Segal was giving him attitude and trying to be a tough guy. This was before Segal was a whale and when Gene was like 60-something. I think there is a thread around here somewhere about it.

Ghost · 07-17-2003, 03:54 AM

Paul Wilson vs Falcon.

Paul taps out inside a minute

kh_s · 07-17-2003, 05:09 AM

Jet li versus Jackie Chan

hehe

................................but in the Octagon following UFC rules

hehe

**Thai Bri** · 07-17-2003, 06:04 AM

"I would love to see seagal take on rickson gracie...it would be a good fight, but I dont really know who would win..."

This has to be the funniest thing I have ever seen on this forum.

ewod · 07-17-2003, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RobertG
Here is your answer from Lebell's own website:

Bob Wall, a former world professional karate champion and friend of LeBell's used to bring martial arts stars Chuck Norris and Bruce Lee to train in karate and judo with LeBell. Wall and Norris were co-owners of a karate school. "The first time Lee sparred with Gene, Gene picked him up and held him overhead," says Wall. "Bruce said, 'When you put me down, I'm going to get you,' so Gene just kept him up there a while. Gene is absolutely the toughest man alive."

I think a few years back he kicked Segal's ass on the set because Segal was giving him attitude and trying to be a tough guy. This was before Segal was a whale and when Gene was like 60-something. I think there is a thread around here somewhere about it.

he choked seagal out I believe on the marked for death set...in your opinion robert, could gene choke rickson out?

Toudiyama[NL] · 07-17-2003, 07:56 AM

Ghost vs Segal
Ghost vs Excessiveforce
Thai Bri vs whatever criminal he has arrested
Me against any BJJ fighter less than 120 Lbs on this forum

Bjjexpertise@be · 07-17-2003, 09:07 AM

hey i weigh 135, only 15 pounds more

Ghost · 07-17-2003, 09:14 AM

ME VS EVERYONE ON THIS FORUM AT THE SAME TIME.
Naaa thats tooo easy

Bjjexpertise@be · 07-17-2003, 09:19 AM

i doubt it ghosty woesty. We'll set Paul on ya

Grape_Ape · 07-17-2003, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ewod

he choked seagal out I believe on the marked for death set...in your opinion robert, could gene choke rickson out?

I think so. At least in his prime. He's getting pretty old now, but I still wouldn't want to step in a ring with him.

falcon3624 · 07-17-2003, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ghost
Paul Wilson vs Falcon.

Paul taps out inside a minute

Paul taps out in under 10 seconds.

RobertG · 07-17-2003, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by falcon3624

Paul taps out in under 10 seconds.

Come on Falcon, you know its not nice to go beat up girls.

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RobertG Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 369	I think Rickson taps him inside of a minute. Segal was a very good aikidoka by all accounts (7th Dan??). He was also about 100 lbs. lighter back in the day. Still, I don't think aikido goes a lot of ground work (just some locks from the knees), so if Rickson takes him down, then Segal is pretty much flapping around. End of fight comes quickly after that.

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RobertG Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 369	Here is your answer from Lebell's own website: Bob Wall, a former world professional karate champion and friend of LeBell's used to bring martial arts stars Chuck Norris and Bruce Lee to train in karate and judo with LeBell. Wall and Norris were co-owners of a karate school. "The first time Lee sparred with Gene, Gene picked him up and held him overhead," says Wall. "Bruce said, 'When you put me down, I'm going to get you,' so Gene just kept him up there a while. Gene is absolutely the toughest man alive." I think a few years back he kicked Segal's ass on the set because Segal was giving him attitude and trying to be a tough guy. This was before Segal was a whale and when Gene was like 60-something. I think there is a thread around here somewhere about it.

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kh_s Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 408	Jet li versus Jackie Chan hehe ................................but in the Octagon following UFC rules hehe

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Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,423	"I would love to see seagal take on rickson gracie...it would be a good fight, but I dont really know who would win..." This has to be the funniest thing I have ever seen on this forum.

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