G.W. Bush's Creationist beliefs

[Newbie]

---Eazy-E

"I just read an interview with GW Bush and he said that he didnt believe in Evolution."

"I know that he isnt the brightest bulb in the house, but not believing in Evolution!?"

"Can he really be this stuiped and narrow minded?!"

"But the creationism people usually get dogmatic about their beliefs and insist that people didnt evolve from lower animal species."

Most creationists would like to discuss the matter in a constructive manner, but the evolutionists "usually get dogmatic and insist" that people did evolve from lower animal species. They often make insulting statements such as "I know that he isnt the brightest bulb in the house, but not believing in Evolution!?" or "Can he really be this stuiped and narrow minded?!"

Exactly what specific details of George W. Bush’s statements regarding the topic of Creationism, other than the fact that he believes in it, led you to criticize his intelligence.

---Ronin

"Evolution is so confirmed by scientific evidence that debating it is almost pointless. It is like debating whether the Earth is round (it is), or whether the Earth goes around the Sun instead of the reverse (it does)."

Evolution is not "so confirmed by scientific evidence". To date, there has not been a single documented example of one species "evolving" into another. It is not "like debating whether the Earth is round" or "whether the Earth goes around the Sun". It can easily be demonstrated through direct observation that the earth is round and orbits the sun. Evolution, however, is merely non-falsifiable, wild speculation based on insufficient fossil remains and faulty dating methods. It, unlike the facts you compared it to, has never been demonstrated by means of direct observation.

[Masala]

Yeah but creationism isn't wild speculation, because it says so in the Bible.

lmao

[Pit Dog]

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Ahhh, thanks for making my day, Mas

[Eazy-E]

Masala,

Great reply!!!!!

E

[Mr. Miyagi]

You don't think that the remains of the australopithacines in Olduvai Gorge discovered by the Leakey's strongly favors evolution? These species were erect and bipedal and each successive species (I won't name them all for you now) had a more robust cranial capacity. They also used tools and hunted based on overwhelming evidence. Their DNA sequence progressed towards that of homo sapiens as well. There are no live samples left so either they evolved or were killed off.
Radioactive dating is not a faulty method. It makes sense to scientists that the half life of a radioactive atom can be used to date something thousands of years old.
Besides the piltdown man scandal, anthropology has been moving forward very handily for the last 100 years and will continue to do so showing the bible thumpers and creationists to be the closed minded fools that they really are.
LOL Masala!

[Ryu (non-working password]

Whoa is me!!!

There IS a middle ground, people!! LMAO!!!

Much has been debated on how science and religion do indeed seem to fit together if you take certain....

ah the hell with it

to quote Judo Guy....

"anyone want to talk about lesbians?"

[Mojo]

Ryu
I've seen lesbians who look like that photo of yours.

[Ryu (non-working password]

to quote Judo Guy again...

"I mean the pretty kind." "Lipstick lesbians"

[Atomic]

Yes, there are documented cases of evolution. A person in my department is actually quite famous for documenting such a case with the creation of a new species of flies. This event took place over a one hundred year period. Other cases have been documented with plants and birds as well.
It doesn't always take millions of years and it is a fact.

The big difference between religion and science is that religion relies on faith, some even say blind faith, that the bible, toran, etc, are correct because it is supposedly devine. Science relies on logic, reasoning, and hard evidence.

Atomic

[Pit Dog]

Religion is for total idiots. Its doctrine states, "THIS IS THE TRUTH, BUT DON'T QUESTION ME ON HOW I KNOW."

Science is for thinking people. Its doctrine states, "WHAT IS THE TRUTH; LET'S QUESTION EVERYTHING UNTIL WE KNOW."

It's really that simple. Anyone who makes the statement, "I believe in creation because The Bible says so," is a non-thinking sub-human. If you question their source, they believe it to be beyond question. This is intellectual bankruptcy and reeks of Thought Fraud. They have NOT ONE SINGLE PIECE of evidence to support this posture *but* a book ... and there is not one single piece of evidence that said book was "divinely inspired." How much more circular can you get?!?

Yet, you present them with a MOUNTAIN of hard evidence pointing to evolution and ALL THEY DO is question. I mean, how much more obtuse, fraudulent, and downright stupid can you get? "I will question a mountain of evidence, but will *never* question a badly-written book based on not a SHRED of evidence."

LOL!

But in the last analysis Masala said it best, shortest, and yet said it all: "Yeah but creationism isn't wild speculation, because it says so in the Bible."

And I agree ... LMAO!

[hounddog]

PD, I don't think it gets more "right on" than that. End of story.

[Ryu (non-working password]

I just need to make sure you are talking about die hard Christian zealots here....

Making a statement that religion if for idiots implies every religion everywhere.

Buddhism doesn't make the claim that Christianity does, is it for idiots too?
What about a Zen philosopher (another branch of buddhism) who strives for the ability to see himself in the context of the world.
Or a Confucianist who wants to better himself through moral actions, filial piety, etc.

Are all these people idiots as well because you have grouped them in with a handful of nuts who think the world is 6000 years old?

Give me a break, quit putting humanity into a box.

Ryu

[Joe Manco]

Yes Ryu.

Buddhists are cowards. "No attachments" is their philosophy. They are so deathly afraid of "Hurt feewings" they espouse that no one have any.

"Life is suffering. Learn to cope with suffering. Learn not to attach yourself to allieviate suffering."

Is there anything more feeble and weak than such fear and tender feewings?

That is why Asians have the social skills of worker bees.

Yours truly,

Joe

[Ryu (non-working password]

Joe if you're so against religion how is it that you have ressurected?

Seriously Pit Dog, you used to be a fun troll but lately you're just boring to talk to.

Even you are smarter then this....


*disappointed*

Ryu

[Atomic]

Yes, even the dim-witted Atomic agrees that it was a lame troll.

My standpoint is this. You can have your religion, whatever it is, but discounting facts placed before you--especially hard core facts--is completely stupid.

Personally, I think Buddhism has some merits, as do other religions. Religious zealots, on the other hand, are a different story.

Atomic