What's You'r Favourite Control Posision Prior To Submision?

HAPPY JACK · 08-04-2003, 08:56 AM

YOU'R FAVOURITE CONTROL POSISION PRIOR TO SUBMISION?

**Thai Bri** · 08-04-2003, 09:05 AM

Salford Dog Lock.

falcon3624 · 08-04-2003, 02:23 PM

Top of back is the best position for submission. Next to that I would have to say side control because it is a good position for me.

swan104 · 08-04-2003, 05:59 PM

Mine would be the top-rear mount (with me on top of the persons back). I haven't been doing grappling for that long, but so far, I've been most successful with submissions from there.

I need to work on my side mount - I was practicing it last week, and couldn't pin down the guy. Mind you, I'm 5ft 6 and he was over 6 foot. He didn't have any problems pinning me though!

I also find I spend a lot of the time in a guard or half guard, so I'm working on my defences and reversals from there.

falcon3624 · 08-04-2003, 06:28 PM

What I do in the side mount is get one knee behind the head. The other knee behind the hip. One elbow behind the head and the other at the hip. To force a submission I usually use a forearme choke to get his hands loose. If the guy is struggling alot on your side mount and throwing you try posting your legs out to put more weight on him to wear him down or try going to the scarf position.

RebelFury · 08-04-2003, 08:58 PM

I actually don't mind doing submissions from my guard... That is, if my opponent is conentrating too hard on passing my guard, not paying enough attention to what I'm doing.

I've thought about trying a Kamora arm lock from my back, haven't tried it yet. Has anyone else tried this? If so, did it work?

Mr. Heel Hook · 08-04-2003, 09:48 PM

Where ever the submision happens to show itself.

falcon3624 · 08-04-2003, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RebelFury
I actually don't mind doing submissions from my guard... That is, if my opponent is conentrating too hard on passing my guard, not paying enough attention to what I'm doing.

I've thought about trying a Kamora arm lock from my back, haven't tried it yet. Has anyone else tried this? If so, did it work?

You can do an almost hammer lock from your back while you have the other guy in the guard. Just about the same thing as a kimura. What you do is for example you would shoot your right arm to the inside of his left arms at the elbow and twist over while turning your body to the side and bringing the right leg over the top to hold him in that position. The arm will settle nicely in the hip joint when you shift your body around. This is not a kimura lock but I think it is called ammo plata (not sure about the spelling).

Mr. Heel Hook · 08-04-2003, 10:46 PM

No, the plata is something different. It is a Kimura from the guard, thats all. The omoplata (thats the spelling, my friend) is an attack done from the guard as well, but thats all the similarities to it.

RebelFury · 08-05-2003, 12:43 AM

Actually, now that I think about it, I believe I've seen a couple guys use that to get out of sticky situations.. never seen 'em win a fight with it, but it stops any onslaughts they just happen to be recieveing.

falcon3624 · 08-05-2003, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. Heel Hook
No, the plata is something different. It is a Kimura from the guard, thats all. The omoplata (thats the spelling, my friend) is an attack done from the guard as well, but thats all the similarities to it.

I checked on it and the spelling I got is Ammo Plato. Same as what I am talking about but you would rotate all the way around with your body and use the leg to hook the arm around. It's just like a hammer lock that you do with you leg from the guard.

Mr. Heel Hook · 08-05-2003, 05:03 PM

Yes, a hammer lock using the leg and body motion from leaning. As for the spelling...I don't know where you are getting it from.

http://www.jiu-jitsu.net/techniques/aranha_omplata/

Michael Neal · 08-06-2003, 01:09 PM

Quote:

I believe I've seen a couple guys use that to get out of sticky situations.. never seen 'em win a fight with it, but it stops any onslaughts they just happen to be recieveing.

Hahahah, I am sorry but alot of these comments sound really gay when compared to the title of this thread.

falcon3624 · 08-06-2003, 01:26 PM

If you want gay go talk to BJJ4LIFE. He'll hook ya up.

Michael Neal · 08-06-2003, 01:32 PM

no thanks

08-04-2003, 08:56 AM	#1 (permalink)
HAPPY JACK Novice Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Perth. Western Australia Posts: 21 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	What's You'r Favourite Control Posision Prior To Submision? YOU'R FAVOURITE CONTROL POSISION PRIOR TO SUBMISION? __________________ I see myself standing before my enemy, He attacks, But By then I am already safely behind him.

08-04-2003, 05:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
swan104 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Stoke-on-Trent/England Posts: 410 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mine would be the top-rear mount (with me on top of the persons back). I haven't been doing grappling for that long, but so far, I've been most successful with submissions from there. I need to work on my side mount - I was practicing it last week, and couldn't pin down the guy. Mind you, I'm 5ft 6 and he was over 6 foot. He didn't have any problems pinning me though! I also find I spend a lot of the time in a guard or half guard, so I'm working on my defences and reversals from there. __________________ Steven

08-04-2003, 08:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
RebelFury Novice Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: London Ontario Canada Posts: 52 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I actually don't mind doing submissions from my guard... That is, if my opponent is conentrating too hard on passing my guard, not paying enough attention to what I'm doing. I've thought about trying a Kamora arm lock from my back, haven't tried it yet. Has anyone else tried this? If so, did it work? __________________ __________ Live every day like it was your last, at least one day you'll be right.

08-04-2003, 09:48 PM	#7 (permalink)
Mr. Heel Hook Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Pepperell MA Posts: 441 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Where ever the submision happens to show itself. __________________ "A deer admires a lion. But all the members of our family are lions. So it doesn't matter which lion I admire. " -Rener Gracie-

08-04-2003, 10:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
Mr. Heel Hook Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Pepperell MA Posts: 441 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	No, the plata is something different. It is a Kimura from the guard, thats all. The omoplata (thats the spelling, my friend) is an attack done from the guard as well, but thats all the similarities to it. __________________ "A deer admires a lion. But all the members of our family are lions. So it doesn't matter which lion I admire. " -Rener Gracie-

08-04-2003, 09:05 AM	#2 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,423 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Salford Dog Lock.

08-04-2003, 02:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
falcon3624 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Louisiana Posts: 946 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Top of back is the best position for submission. Next to that I would have to say side control because it is a good position for me.

08-04-2003, 06:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
falcon3624 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Louisiana Posts: 946 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	What I do in the side mount is get one knee behind the head. The other knee behind the hip. One elbow behind the head and the other at the hip. To force a submission I usually use a forearme choke to get his hands loose. If the guy is struggling alot on your side mount and throwing you try posting your legs out to put more weight on him to wear him down or try going to the scarf position.

08-05-2003, 12:43 AM	#10 (permalink)
RebelFury Novice Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: London Ontario Canada Posts: 52 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Actually, now that I think about it, I believe I've seen a couple guys use that to get out of sticky situations.. never seen 'em win a fight with it, but it stops any onslaughts they just happen to be recieveing.

08-05-2003, 05:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
Mr. Heel Hook Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Pepperell MA Posts: 441 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yes, a hammer lock using the leg and body motion from leaning. As for the spelling...I don't know where you are getting it from. http://www.jiu-jitsu.net/techniques/aranha_omplata/ __________________ "A deer admires a lion. But all the members of our family are lions. So it doesn't matter which lion I admire. " -Rener Gracie-

08-06-2003, 01:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
falcon3624 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Louisiana Posts: 946 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	If you want gay go talk to BJJ4LIFE. He'll hook ya up.

08-06-2003, 01:32 PM	#15 (permalink)
Michael Neal Novice Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 33 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	no thanks __________________ Michael Neal

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