Best combination of Martial arts.

[Ghost]

Ive always thought that with regards to street self defence the best combination will be 3 arts.

Personally i would go with MT and BJJ with one of those being the base art and the one which should be 'mastered' ot a t least trained to a high level.
The other should also be trained well.

I think these two are easy to train together as they dont conflict.

To then round them off and add the true self defence side which would include awareness training and blah blah blah.

I would not choose just a self defence system like Krav Maga/JKD etc alone because i dont think they can beat a Thai Boxer of good standard standing up and likwise with BJJ on the ground.

What would u girls add ?

[El Luchador]

Arnis/FMA , Flows Well with The above.

Thai has the Great Mentality of how to use the hole body,,known for it's hard core Leg Kicks,knees & elbows.

Ju Jitsu or Submisson Wrestling is a Must joint Locks & chokes
Can be a Great Size equlizer.

While FMA is complete in the Sence that it has elements
from Grappling & Striking it's a Weapon's based Art.
Sticks,knives,staff,Swords.

This has been My 3 someone else may not agree
but i feel thsese 3 finish a 3 point triangle.

[Wearing Grey]

For me,

I think TKD, HKD and then something like Ju Jitsu would work good. I take both TKD and HKD and they go great together (of course they are both Korean). Now if you add in a ground art I think it makes training complete.

Just my thoughts.

WG

[sk12879]

I train TKD and BJJ. I'd love to take MT rather than TKD, but there isn't a school anywhere near my house that I can find. And the TKD/BJJ are trained about 2 minutes away. But TKD and BJJ work quite well together for a standup/ground fighting mix.

[ryanhall]

No set of martial sports is the best for self-defense. They are certainly helpful, but they don't stack up to reality for a long list of reasons that I have listed too many times to count.

[Tom Yum]

Ditto.

I would like to hear more about traditional styles known for self-defense as I spend a great deal of my time doing muay thai, with some grappling.

[Roland]

Originally posted by Ghost
I would not choose just a self defence system like Krav Maga/JKD etc alone because i dont think they can beat a Thai Boxer of good standard standing up and likwise with BJJ on the ground.

When is anyone ever going to get mugged by a good Thai Boxer or a skilled BJJ fighter?

[Michael Neal]

Judo & BJJ

[RobertG]

Don't be logical Roland. You know damn well that muggers are working on their submissions and clinch work all the time so they can beat Krav Maga guys and steal their wallets.

Nevermind that most Krav Maga and JKD people cross-train in BJJ/MT.

Its interesting that the amount of thought people put into thinking about street self-defense is hugely disproportionate to the frequency of street fights. Guy who have never been in a street fight start training, then wonder what the best art for street defense is. Well, gee, if you have managed to avoid a street fight for all the years you weren't training, then you'll likely manage to avoid one for many years after that. And when and if it does happen, the guy is likely going to have a gun and all your MT/BJJ/etc. is going to be useless anyway.

[Tom Yum]

I've seen some interesting scuffles. A lot of guys on the street know basic karate/tae kwon do, but in a fit of rage they over commit to techniques and loose balance after kicking or punching.

The better street guys have a pretty good cross, rear hook, rear leg front kick and a sloppy rear leg tkd style round kick, but allmost no lead arm/leg techniques except a pawing lead over hand that is all arm.

They are likely to start the fight by either confronting, grabbing and punching with the right hooks and overhands or start with a sucker punch flurry of pawing left overhands, right hooks. Then if the other guy bends downward to cover, they start throwing the rear leg front kick or rear sloppy roundhouse and try to tackle you/knee you/shove you to the ground. Other nasty tricks street fighters do is grab your lapel and club you with the other hand and use the lapel grabbing hand to thrust an elbow into your face. They like the headlock too and will try to drive you in the ground with it.

They are allmost 99.9% head hunters and do not expect or defend body shots, low kicks or thrusting thai-style knees. If you use lateral movement and land 1-2 solid thai kicks, they will bring their arms down to try and catch the next one with their hands and expose their chin. If you clinch and knee, once they figure out what is going on they will try to tackle and pound you.

Most street fighters fight forward and backward and also do not expect angles or quick lateral movement. They expect to face you straight on and pummel you in the head - its instinct taking over.

If you find yourself getting into a street fight, control the conversation before anything breaks out and make sure that your witnesses hear you say things like "I don't want to fight!" "Let's not do this"

[RebelFury]

I think many people miss the point of practicing martial arts. MA's are not meant for street defense.. the best street defence is A) Run away. Really fast, because he's probably got some buddies, or a weapon. Or B) Get a gun permit, and pack some heat.

When you train in MA, a great deal of training is to teach you discipline, so that you don't have to fight in the street, nor do you want to.

MA is mostly training to stay fit, healthy, and to compete is something. Just like basketball players play basketball day in and day out, because they like to compete. As is the deal with Martial Arts.

[Mr. Heel Hook]

Me, and any of them.

[Great Sage]

Puahahaha... Good point. Too many people associate street fighting with video games—one on one with another unarmed fighter. Not very likely. Maybe in high school you have scuffles where your training is eminently superior, but in a real fight with no rules... very uncertain.

Most common fights happen at social places: bars, bowling alley, and fairs where ego and alcohol are running high. However, these confrontations are generally controlled immediately by the environment—security, bouncers and policemen.

The more serious threat is an assailant who wants money or perhaps you... In which case, it’s naive to try and fight—Even the dumbest street rat knows enough to be armed for a “job.” Few people will attack you without security: A gun, knife, crowbar or bat. You see, attacking someone for money without a gun puts the attacker at risk at well.

The best self-defense tools are two good legs that can carry you away as fast as possible.

[nogard1980]

What do you guys think of this combo?


Wing chun basis (traditional & modified(meaning with jkd concepts),savate,western boxing,and MT.

I think it will be great for standup, but their is a school near by that teaches mma ( infact it is ran by one of the refs from ufc) that I was thinking about joining after about 5 yrs of my current training to get some more ground technics. I figure wait a few yrs to see if I still feel the same about needing it.

[Tom Yum]

Running or packing are your best bets. People still try to intimidate or assualt though and when someone has the intentions of hurting you, its good to have something when you're backed into a corner.