300 matches!!!

[chris davis 200]

check this out!

100 Fights in 3 Days
Oyama would not require anything of his students that he had not previously done. Therefore, Oyama would elect to undertake the 100-man fighting first. It was soon after his arduous training in the mountains when Oyama chose hyakunin kumite as the ultimate test for kyokushin. He was at the pinnacle of physical conditioning and believed there was no better time to take on such a task. Therefore, he selected the best black belt students from his dojo for his opponents, and he required each student to fight him for two minutes, consecutively. After the entire group of students fought Oyama, they repeated their fighting rotation until 100 bouts were complete. To satisfy Oyama’s personal supreme test, he chose to face 100 consecutive fights a day over the course of three days, for a total of 300 fights. He would take small breaks after every 20 or so fights in order to replenish fluids and tend to matters of personal hygiene. Sleep between each of the 100 man fight days was at a minimum for Oyama due to the increase of adrenaline and anticipation of the next day’s fights.

Many of the students who faced Oyama fought three or four times during the three days. Several students could only face him once due to injuries they sustained. Oyama would knockout many students with a single blow. Although he wanted to continue for a fourth day, he was unable to because of the lack of willing opponents. For these three days, Oyama fought full-contact, without pads, against his top students, defeating them all. No other martial artist in history has even made an attempt at duplicating his 300-man fight. And because of the punishing effect this ordeal had on his students, Oyama would not attempt such a feat again.

Mas oyama was tough! Wonder how he would have got on in K1?

[Toudiyama[NL]]

Some of his best students did 100 men Kumite ( and some were taken out of the records)

so you could conclude that kyokushin people are though cookies

[jules]

so you could conclude that kyokushin people are though cookies

You mean people who actually try the 100 Kumite are tough cookies.

[chris davis 200]

apparantly there were only 12 that actually succeeded.

but yeh those guys were tough.

no pads, no nuthin, just fighting full contact!

I have got alot of time for that!

In 1952, he starts a Tourney through the United States and Asia, accepting challenges from fighters from all kinds of disciplines; Judo, Karate, Thai boxers, English boxers, etc.
All fights were won, in a total 270 challenges, not one lasted more than three minutes. And the New York Times called Mas Oyama, in 1960, 'The toughest man in the world.'

Do those of you that know kyokushin ka or train in it think that anyone currently high in the art has the same abilities as Mas Oyama?

cheers
Chris

[Toudiyama[NL]]

Originally posted by jules


You mean people who actually try the 100 Kumite are tough cookies.

Nah Real Kyokushin people
For a BB you have to do 30 or 50 men kumite

BTW, you have to win most of the fights with ippon gachi

[Thai Bri]

I have always found this "100 man kumite" thing to be a bit unbelieveable. I mean, if either he, or his students, was so tough, how could any of them carry on after a couple of fights?

Or is there some kind of unnoffical deal going on, like "yeah, lets have a hard fight, but we'll all pace ourselves as its going to be a long day".

Its like tales of the old bare knuckle boxers going 80 rounds etc. What people omit telling you is that they weren't 3 minute rounds. A "round" ended when someone dropped to their knee ofr a breather etc.

I do have respect for Kyukushinkai and Mas Ohyama. But I don't think that they were going all out on these challenges.

ps - having rules where they could not use any hand strikes or punches to the head helps keep things going too. Kicks would rarely land to the head of a trained fighter, so they were basically pummelling each others bodies.

[Toudiyama[NL]]

It's only a win on Ippon, if not you have to fight the full time AND that's something you don't want to do

And a lot of time the kicks do land though
Kyokushin karateka won't be sociable during a 100 men kumite, heck the japanese(kyokushinkaika) never were sociable during training, as a gaijin you really had to prove yourself

There haven't been 100 people that completed the 100 men kumite succesfully, which might be an indication on how hard it is

[Thai Bri]

Are there any articles about how many have tried and failed?

[jules]

donno how many tried but i think less than 10 actually acomplished the feat. Filio was in the hospital for about a month after it...

[Toudiyama[NL]]

nah in total maybe some 30 people all around the world

and that over a period of more than 40 years

It is the closest thing to hell you can think of

A non contact kyokushin school in my city once held them for their students but even if you took into account it was non contact it was a weak ripoff
Even I as a weak Wado stylist would have put up more of a fight than these people put together and that was when they weren't even half way down
winning or losing didn't matter just participating
they were divided into groups and would have a break 1 out of 3 times, event took all day
Now I know it's hard to be busy all day but organising an event will wear you out more ( no breaks at all)

the real deal guys deserve the name warrior, they have earned it

[Thai Bri]

The point I was making is that, if they make it so hard, then there would be hundreds of people not succeeding. But where are the "I only got to number 43....." stories?

I still reckon it is tough. But the people helping are doing just that, helping. They don't want the demi god they have going for it to fail. So they make a good show, but don't go all out.

[Toudiyama[NL]]

Outside of japan that might be true but not in japan for others than Oyama himself, he was the only demigod
japanese spirit is a strange thing, they just want to teach the gaijin a lesson ( talking about the non japanese here)
As for the non succes stories, that might be because kyokushin people are Real machos, you don't hear them much about there losses at all especially when there is no referee to blame

It is a feat that not a lot of people even have attemted in Japan ( which as far as I know is the only one that counts for the kyokushin)
Guys like Steve Arneil and Loek Hollander aren't demigods in Japan and even if they are now they weren't at the time they did this

Chris:

The only one both in power and ability that comes close in my mind is Jon Bluming ( that is alive) he incorporated the groundfight into kyokushin and renamed that into kyokushin budokai
used his karate/judo skills as a bouncer and was able to deefeat Anton Geesink in Judo ( but not allowed to go to the olymics due to sports-politics)