The Man Who Defeated Helio Gracie - Page 2

Tony10 · 12-16-2000, 04:38 PM

God, that picture again...

desert eagle · 12-18-2000, 01:41 AM

thanks for the informative thread

Smokey_D · 12-18-2000, 01:33 PM

Did anyone notice how Kimura passed Helio's guard? Very cool. He clearly dominated the fight.

It is BS that he had better "fighting will and spirit." If I fought a 10 year kid and toyed with him, but someone said, well this kid had more fighting spirit, I would be pissed.

Rorion should run for a political office. He can spin anything.

As far as the missing tape goes, I believe that this is all that exists of the fight or at least is publically distributed by the Gracies. Unfortunately, I don't think there were any Japanese news crews there with cameras.

bbbb · 11-23-2004, 12:53 AM

?so what is the moral of the story...

mma_fan81 · 12-22-2004, 11:23 AM

My favorite part is: "One instance, Wushi-Zima, a two time champion, was aroused by a commotion in the nearby woods"

sirmattu · 12-22-2004, 03:16 PM

How did he accomplish such a high dan at that age?

cakegirl · 12-22-2004, 06:06 PM

He practiced takedowns on trees at midnight??? I wonder if he actually took them down (i.e., uprooted them) or if it was just the early stage of the takedowns he practiced...

Cakegirl (going downstairs now to do 1000 pushups)

wardancer · 12-23-2004, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sirmattu

How did he accomplish such a high dan at that age?

in those days, they did not have coloured (yellow, white, blue etc...). they only had white, brown, balck. getting 3 dan after 3 years was the norm for University students that studied under the founder.
the existing so glamorous black belt TMA belt is a concept new promoted by non-jap instructors.

HappyJackSlade · 12-23-2004, 08:36 AM

That was an awesome read.I just saw the video of the fight between Helio and Kimura

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Tony10 Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 527 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	God, that picture again... __________________ Are you not entertained?!

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bbbb Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: G'daay from W.A. Posts: 388 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	? ?so what is the moral of the story... __________________ Use attack as your indestructable spiritual strength. Awareness is the spirit. Attack is the foundation of thought. Attack like thunder from the heaven's. Retreat like dust of the earth.

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cakegirl Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: under a pebble Posts: 838 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	He practiced takedowns on trees at midnight??? I wonder if he actually took them down (i.e., uprooted them) or if it was just the early stage of the takedowns he practiced... Cakegirl (going downstairs now to do 1000 pushups) __________________

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12-18-2000, 01:41 AM	#17 (permalink)
desert eagle Novice Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: salt lake city Posts: 14 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks for the informative thread

12-18-2000, 01:33 PM	#18 (permalink)
Smokey_D Novice Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Philly, PA Posts: 59 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Did anyone notice how Kimura passed Helio's guard? Very cool. He clearly dominated the fight. It is BS that he had better "fighting will and spirit." If I fought a 10 year kid and toyed with him, but someone said, well this kid had more fighting spirit, I would be pissed. Rorion should run for a political office. He can spin anything. As far as the missing tape goes, I believe that this is all that exists of the fight or at least is publically distributed by the Gracies. Unfortunately, I don't think there were any Japanese news crews there with cameras.

12-22-2004, 11:23 AM	#20 (permalink)
mma_fan81 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 29 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	My favorite part is: "One instance, Wushi-Zima, a two time champion, was aroused by a commotion in the nearby woods"

12-22-2004, 03:16 PM	#21 (permalink)
sirmattu Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: ohio Posts: 194 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	How did he accomplish such a high dan at that age?

12-23-2004, 08:36 AM	#24 (permalink)
HappyJackSlade Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Perth Western Australia Posts: 55 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	That was an awesome read.I just saw the video of the fight between Helio and Kimura

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