The Ultimate in Martial Arts

Heel-hook · 08-18-2003, 06:35 PM

Hello,

i've been giving it some thought, and I have started to think that BJJ has really no longer become a style. The reason why I say this is becomes it seems to have become ground fighting, and more specific, the whole ground fighting aspect of fighting.

Nearly all profighters train in Jiujitsu. At first this started to piss me off because there seemed to be no diversity. Than I realized that its because Jujitsu really has the most techniques. Jiujitsu is starting to grow. Its kinda merging with other styles like Sambo, catch wrestling, greco wrestling, and judo.

So to Sum it up jiujitsu seems to have become another word for ground fighting. I know that im gonna get some feed back from this.

Mr. Heel Hook · 08-18-2003, 10:07 PM

Just because you know a few basic movements that share similarities with others doesn't make it a style or not. This idea is kind of silly to me...oh...and uh....GET OFF MY HANDLE!

Tom Yum · 08-18-2003, 10:58 PM

Interesting, its like the birth of a sport like boxing, (in this case grappling) where each grappler has his own style, attributes and favorite techniques.

Just like in boxing Roy Jones boxes differently than Klitscho and in the sport of grappling Frank Shamrock grapples differently than Dan Severn.

I think I see what you're getting at.

Heel-hook · 08-18-2003, 11:43 PM

Mr. heel Hook, seeings how I've registerd before you, Ill just ignore you.

Mr. Heel Hook · 08-19-2003, 12:09 AM

Seeing how you have 5 post...GET OFF MY HANDLE! And I have this handle on several other Message boards. Oh...and I was kidding. "I'll ignore you..."

Putz.

Heel-hook · 08-19-2003, 01:52 AM

Yeah I love you to

Mr. Heel Hook · 08-19-2003, 07:42 AM

Heel-Hook, you are a bitter bitter man.

Lizard · 08-19-2003, 07:47 AM

BJJ is a style. It uses a number of different techniques, it doesn't use other techniques.

Example:

BJJ uses armbars

BJJ does not use eye gouges.

Therefore people who do BJJ will use some techniques and not others, they will also have a certain approach to fighting, making it a style.

Mr. Heel Hook · 08-19-2003, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lizard
BJJ is a style. It uses a number of different techniques, it doesn't use other techniques.

Example:

BJJ uses armbars

BJJ does not use eye gouges.

Therefore people who do BJJ will use some techniques and not others, they will also have a certain approach to fighting, making it a style.

Exactly.

Heel-hook · 08-19-2003, 10:30 AM

You missed my point. Its a style yes, but its slowly becomeing the enitre ground aspect of fighting.

kengar · 08-19-2003, 11:27 AM

Its evolving.

08-18-2003, 06:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
Heel-hook Novice Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 22 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	BJJ not a style anymore? Hello, i've been giving it some thought, and I have started to think that BJJ has really no longer become a style. The reason why I say this is becomes it seems to have become ground fighting, and more specific, the whole ground fighting aspect of fighting. Nearly all profighters train in Jiujitsu. At first this started to piss me off because there seemed to be no diversity. Than I realized that its because Jujitsu really has the most techniques. Jiujitsu is starting to grow. Its kinda merging with other styles like Sambo, catch wrestling, greco wrestling, and judo. So to Sum it up jiujitsu seems to have become another word for ground fighting. I know that im gonna get some feed back from this.

08-18-2003, 10:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mr. Heel Hook Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Pepperell MA Posts: 441 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just because you know a few basic movements that share similarities with others doesn't make it a style or not. This idea is kind of silly to me...oh...and uh....GET OFF MY HANDLE! __________________ "A deer admires a lion. But all the members of our family are lions. So it doesn't matter which lion I admire. " -Rener Gracie-

08-19-2003, 12:09 AM	#5 (permalink)
Mr. Heel Hook Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Pepperell MA Posts: 441 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Seeing how you have 5 post...GET OFF MY HANDLE! And I have this handle on several other Message boards. Oh...and I was kidding. "I'll ignore you..." Putz. __________________ "A deer admires a lion. But all the members of our family are lions. So it doesn't matter which lion I admire. " -Rener Gracie-

08-19-2003, 07:42 AM	#7 (permalink)
Mr. Heel Hook Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Pepperell MA Posts: 441 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Heel-Hook, you are a bitter bitter man. __________________ "A deer admires a lion. But all the members of our family are lions. So it doesn't matter which lion I admire. " -Rener Gracie-

08-19-2003, 07:47 AM	#8 (permalink)
Lizard Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 985 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	BJJ is a style. It uses a number of different techniques, it doesn't use other techniques. Example: BJJ uses armbars BJJ does not use eye gouges. Therefore people who do BJJ will use some techniques and not others, they will also have a certain approach to fighting, making it a style. __________________ Enemies Strengthen, Allies weaken.

08-18-2003, 10:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tom Yum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here and there. Posts: 11,573 Groans: 1 Groaned at 5 Times in 5 Posts	Interesting, its like the birth of a sport like boxing, (in this case grappling) where each grappler has his own style, attributes and favorite techniques. Just like in boxing Roy Jones boxes differently than Klitscho and in the sport of grappling Frank Shamrock grapples differently than Dan Severn. I think I see what you're getting at.

08-18-2003, 11:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
Heel-hook Novice Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 22 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mr. heel Hook, seeings how I've registerd before you, Ill just ignore you.

08-19-2003, 01:52 AM	#6 (permalink)
Heel-hook Novice Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 22 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yeah I love you to

08-19-2003, 10:30 AM	#10 (permalink)
Heel-hook Novice Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 22 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	You missed my point. Its a style yes, but its slowly becomeing the enitre ground aspect of fighting.

08-19-2003, 11:27 AM	#11 (permalink)
kengar Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ky. Posts: 422 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Its evolving. __________________ Hummm.....

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