The Ultimate in Martial Arts

13th Warrior · 08-22-2003, 10:34 AM

Hey guys
New to the forum. Thinking about adding another martial art style.
.My primary style is white eyebrow kung fu. I am 6'2 and 230lbs, and 35. In good shape. Narrow it down to
capoeira
goju ryu /shorin ryu( hell of lot of katas/forms)
bando
dragon kung fu( maybe too similiar to white eyebrow , not sure
any help or advice is greatly appreciated
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Szczepankiewicz · 08-22-2003, 10:42 AM

Cool handle.

Excellent B movie.

Are those really your only choices? Each style has advantages and disadvantages. In my limited knowledge of each, none of them are in the top tier for practical application.

Half-Asleep · 08-22-2003, 10:55 AM

spose it comes back to the good ol' question what do u want it for?

Szczepankiewicz · 08-22-2003, 11:02 AM

Half-Assleap is right on!

What DO you want to do with your new art?

Half-Asleep · 08-22-2003, 11:09 AM

YES!!!! i feel so smart now i know i was right... now if only ppl could spell half-asleep i'd be set :P

EDIT - just thought i should mention i screw up spelling it all the time hahaha mostly with hlaf-asleep

shasan · 08-22-2003, 11:21 AM

Since you already have some stand up (I'm assuming that's what white-eyebrow kung fu is), you need to round off your game with ground techniques...

Go with Brazilian JiuJitsu - in about 6 months to a year, you will be able to handle yourself on the ground, especially well against people with no ground game.

Lizard · 08-22-2003, 01:04 PM

So shasan I suppose you voted for the BJJ option?

That isn't an option!

Bando better good for self defense

Dragon gong fu might be fun and probably looks good

Capeoira looks nice

Karate could also be fun

shasan · 08-22-2003, 01:12 PM

What can I say, I'm an out of the box thinker.

very well aware that's not an option on the list, but that's my heartfelt recommendation nevertheless. Maybe he hasn't considered it up until now.

of course, depending on what he wants to do, he really should have some ground training no? who DOESN'T want to be a well rounded martial artist?

Lizard · 08-22-2003, 01:15 PM

Decide what you want then go to each of the schools and try a lesson.

a) does it help you to acheive what you want?
b) do you like the style/school/instructor?

If you're lucky they will give you a free trial lesson. If you can't afford a lesson then you can always just watch.

Personaly I do MA (martial arts) for enjoyment and excersise so I would probably go for dragon gong fu or possibly even karate (if I liked the way they trained it).

And another thing. Why did I bother to write MA and then explain it? It would have been much easier just to write martial arts in the first place. I suppose for 2 reasons.

1) I hate to delete things
2) So you would know what MA meant in the future

13th Warrior · 08-22-2003, 01:25 PM

Good question

I want to be a well rounded martial artist.
Ground fighting is a definite consideration.
I thought of capoeira too confuse or catch a opponent off guard.
Bando appears to be very complete and combat oriented( it is one leaning on, plus those guys are very well conditioned. Will check out bjj also
thanks guys
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lssanjose · 08-22-2003, 02:07 PM

capoeira is pretty cool to look at. got a buddy doing it . I'll have some links when I get around to ask him. You do have to be well conditioned for a lot of those flips and what not. But yeha for combat oriented from the ones you listed bando is the most feasible.

RobertG · 08-22-2003, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shasan
Since you already have some stand up (I'm assuming that's what white-eyebrow kung fu is), you need to round off your game with ground techniques...

Go with Brazilian JiuJitsu - in about 6 months to a year, you will be able to handle yourself on the ground, especially well against people with no ground game.

I thought Bando had lots of grappling in it.

It just depends which of the animal systems you are training the most, but its my understanding that they all cover all of the ranges of combat.

SweepEm · 08-23-2003, 02:41 AM

D) none of the above...

I'm not trying to be a wise guy but of those choices, none appeal to me.

I train BJJ solely but if I were to add another MA, I would look at Krav Maga.

Cain · 08-23-2003, 04:30 AM

shootfighting and krav maga together..

Half-Asleep · 08-23-2003, 11:31 AM

i dunno about doing capoera for self defence purposes i dunno how useful it would be in an actual fight when i see ppl training in capoera they always appear to be moving i dunno it seems rather slowly and also it doesn't seem to be actually that effective although i could be wrong, please correct me if i am...

View Poll Results: what art would you pick
capoeira	1	14.29%
goju ryu/ shorin ryu	0	0%
bando	5	71.43%
dragon kung fu	1	14.29%
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08-22-2003, 10:34 AM	#1 (permalink)
13th Warrior Novice Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: ohio Posts: 2 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Which art would you choose Hey guys New to the forum. Thinking about adding another martial art style. .My primary style is white eyebrow kung fu. I am 6'2 and 230lbs, and 35. In good shape. Narrow it down to capoeira goju ryu /shorin ryu( hell of lot of katas/forms) bando dragon kung fu( maybe too similiar to white eyebrow , not sure any help or advice is greatly appreciated 13 Last edited by 13th Warrior; 08-22-2003 at 10:42 AM.

08-22-2003, 10:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
Half-Asleep Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 88 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	spose it comes back to the good ol' question what do u want it for? __________________ "Knowing is not enough, we must apply. Willing is not enough, we must do" Bruce Lee

08-22-2003, 11:09 AM	#5 (permalink)
Half-Asleep Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 88 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	YES!!!! i feel so smart now i know i was right... now if only ppl could spell half-asleep i'd be set :P EDIT - just thought i should mention i screw up spelling it all the time hahaha mostly with hlaf-asleep __________________ "Knowing is not enough, we must apply. Willing is not enough, we must do" Bruce Lee

08-22-2003, 11:21 AM	#6 (permalink)
shasan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 223 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Since you already have some stand up (I'm assuming that's what white-eyebrow kung fu is), you need to round off your game with ground techniques... Go with Brazilian JiuJitsu - in about 6 months to a year, you will be able to handle yourself on the ground, especially well against people with no ground game. __________________ ------------ I hate it when people quote themselves in their sigs. - shasan.

08-22-2003, 10:42 AM	#2 (permalink)
Szczepankiewicz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Meridian, ID, USA Posts: 4,109 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Cool handle. Excellent B movie. Are those really your only choices? Each style has advantages and disadvantages. In my limited knowledge of each, none of them are in the top tier for practical application.

08-22-2003, 11:02 AM	#4 (permalink)
Szczepankiewicz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Meridian, ID, USA Posts: 4,109 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Half-Assleap is right on! What DO you want to do with your new art?

08-22-2003, 01:04 PM	#7 (permalink)
Lizard Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 985 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	So shasan I suppose you voted for the BJJ option? That isn't an option! Bando better good for self defense Dragon gong fu might be fun and probably looks good Capeoira looks nice Karate could also be fun __________________ Enemies Strengthen, Allies weaken.

08-22-2003, 01:12 PM	#8 (permalink)
shasan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 223 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	What can I say, I'm an out of the box thinker. very well aware that's not an option on the list, but that's my heartfelt recommendation nevertheless. Maybe he hasn't considered it up until now. of course, depending on what he wants to do, he really should have some ground training no? who DOESN'T want to be a well rounded martial artist? __________________ ------------ I hate it when people quote themselves in their sigs. - shasan.

08-22-2003, 01:15 PM	#9 (permalink)
Lizard Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 985 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Decide what you want then go to each of the schools and try a lesson. a) does it help you to acheive what you want? b) do you like the style/school/instructor? If you're lucky they will give you a free trial lesson. If you can't afford a lesson then you can always just watch. Personaly I do MA (martial arts) for enjoyment and excersise so I would probably go for dragon gong fu or possibly even karate (if I liked the way they trained it). And another thing. Why did I bother to write MA and then explain it? It would have been much easier just to write martial arts in the first place. I suppose for 2 reasons. 1) I hate to delete things 2) So you would know what MA meant in the future __________________ Enemies Strengthen, Allies weaken.

08-22-2003, 01:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
13th Warrior Novice Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: ohio Posts: 2 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Good question I want to be a well rounded martial artist. Ground fighting is a definite consideration. I thought of capoeira too confuse or catch a opponent off guard. Bando appears to be very complete and combat oriented( it is one leaning on, plus those guys are very well conditioned. Will check out bjj also thanks guys 13

08-22-2003, 02:07 PM	#11 (permalink)
lssanjose Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 145 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	capoeira is pretty cool to look at. got a buddy doing it . I'll have some links when I get around to ask him. You do have to be well conditioned for a lot of those flips and what not. But yeha for combat oriented from the ones you listed bando is the most feasible.

08-23-2003, 02:41 AM	#13 (permalink)
SweepEm Master Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,845 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	D) none of the above... I'm not trying to be a wise guy but of those choices, none appeal to me. I train BJJ solely but if I were to add another MA, I would look at Krav Maga.

08-23-2003, 04:30 AM	#14 (permalink)
Cain Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 388 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	shootfighting and krav maga together.. __________________ any given fighter can beat any given fighter on any given day.. so.. what are you waiting for Rickson, I'm here..

08-23-2003, 11:31 AM	#15 (permalink)
Half-Asleep Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 88 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	i dunno about doing capoera for self defence purposes i dunno how useful it would be in an actual fight when i see ppl training in capoera they always appear to be moving i dunno it seems rather slowly and also it doesn't seem to be actually that effective although i could be wrong, please correct me if i am... __________________ "Knowing is not enough, we must apply. Willing is not enough, we must do" Bruce Lee

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