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Old 08-24-2003, 08:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm looking to find a martial art that is very strong against any other art and applicable to the street and fighting situations. I have a wrist that's a little messed up and legs that were broken a few years ago, but ive heard that broken bones are stronger so i'd like some reccomendations. Right now im self training in boxing regularly, conditioning, and eating nothing but healthy food and drinking water.
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Old 08-24-2003, 11:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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research on jujutsu (japanese or brazilian), muay thai, Wrestling, Jeet Kune Do. It seems like your'e on the right track though. Also you might wanna take a look at some weapons arts like kali or krav maga?
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If i had to learn weapons training, id learn training for the best weapon called the gun.
I've heard jkd is usually highly focused on grappling and since i think bjj is better at grappling and close range self defense i would take that over it, however bjj isnt very applicable on the streets because of weapons and possible multiple attackers. I would never risk grappling someone if they had a knife. I think a standup type art would probably be the best and maybe i can crosstrain in bjj later.

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true enough.
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What I would do if I were you is go check out all the local BJJ, Muay Thai, Jeet Kune Do places in your city and fit the one that best suits your needs. Some places train for competition, others for self-defense. Also talk to the main instructor to see if he/she has a personality and work philosophy you agree with.
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i'd say change from boxing to kick boxing and after u are compitent at that or possibly while training at that if u have the money train in jiu jitsu or ninjitsu/ninpo
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If you had already broken your legs, I would not go with Muay Thai.
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There are two places in my area, one muay thai school that claims to teach grappling as well and a bjj school taught by rodrigo gracie, im gonna go to the muay thai school, it should be ok since im drinking like 5 glasses of milk a day and i think im getting calcium deposits. BTW what exactly are calcium deposits in your legs. ; )
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If you have the chance to study with Rodrigo Gracie, I would take it.
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You're probably looking for a system that emphasizes the path of least resistance... Muay Thai is probably not a great idea, especially if you want to be careful about your legs.

For a reality based fighting system that's fairly effective, I would look at the JKD-based systems out there. Senshido (www.senshido.com ) if you're in that area, Progressive Figthing Systems (www.fighting.net ) probably has a school in your area... Larry Hartsell (www.jkdassoc.com ), and there are many others...

Hope you find something you like.

One more thing, I think you're mistaken about JKD and grappling. Although JKD has it's 'own' techniques for the ground, you will see that most instructors/gurus actually incorporate BJJ and other groundfighting techniques (Catch-as-Catch-Can, sambo, etc) into their ground techniques.

Like I always say, JKD is of all arts and of none.

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those supposed 2 day programs all those realistic fighting styles offer are expensive as hell and i doubt theyd be any good against an experienced martial artist of 6 months or more. You can't teach your muscles to instantaneously react like in martial arts in 2 days and you probably cant remember everything you learn in those 2 days. Those are more for people who just wanna learn self defense quickly. I might take bjj and kickboxing and if i cant take the kicking in kickboxing ill somehow adapt and if i cant do that then ill just take bjj and mix in some boxing training of my own for standup and footwork. JKD seems interesting but there are no places in my area to take it anyways.
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but ive heard that broken bones are stronger so i'd like some reccomendations.
A myth and also a myth is that they are weaker. When a bone breaks it heals in several weeks. After the bone is mended it is actually a bit weaker because there is a solid mass of bone that is over the running slim part like a wad of glue or something.
Why is it weaker if there is a mass of bone around the break spot? Well, because your body has stress points on it that are meant to be broken in case some kind of drastic trauma happens. Your bones are designed to break at certain spots. So without that spot being able to break if need be, it is actually worse because the break will spiral up or break at a point that is much harder to heal.
However, the amazing thing is that after a year goes by to the day it broke, your body will have eroded the lump of bone shaping it to an exact shape of what it was.
Everyone's body has cells that run along the 206 bones that are in your bodies. The ones I am speaking of are called bone destroyers (osteoclasts ) and bone builders (osteoblasts). They continually deposit an acidic protein mix that becomes mineralized. Each bone also contains cells that can break that structure down. One cells destroys the bone lining, the other refreshes it. Your bones are constantly being torn down and replaced. This is why, even if you live to be one hundred years old, your skeleton will never be over 20 years old.
The process itself slows down with age which is why your bones become more brittle; the cells slow down so the rebirthing process starts to become not as frequent.
So all in all, your bones are exactly the same they were before their intial breakage. Unless of course is was a server break or you are of an older age.

So, no more myths and try not to worry about old breaks or think they are stronger than they really are. You are the same, through and through.
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Looks like Mr Heel Hook here is a professional biologist or something..

I'm afraid I didn't take Biology in highschool, so I'm fairly ignorant on the subject. But it does make sense.
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Ehh, I didn't mean to "brain up" the post. I work with people and their diets so I know a bit or two about how the body works and repairs itself and such.
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Um lets see it was pretty much 2 1/2 years ago and it basically took about 3-6 months for my bones to heal because i shattered them it wasnt a simple break. I broke the fibias in both of them at 1 spot. I broke the fibia in my left leg at the upper area. I broke the fibia in my right leg at the upper area near my knee but now quite at the growth plate but really close and also in the mid bottom of it. The mid bottom wasn't as bad a break but the bone protruded out of my leg and they had to put it back in place. It took so long for them to heal because of misalignment and a few rebreaks i had to have done and a lot of surgeries, i had a few sets of pins placed in at various times. Right now, they don't feel so bad, im just cautious, the only part that feels weird is some of the scars over the parts where i had pins placed. some of them sort of indent into my leg and other protrude slightly, if i push on those spots it hurts more than on any other part of my leg, on the indenting ones it seems like im missing the muscle in that part and its just skin and maybe very thin muscle and then bone.
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