wtf?

[Cain]

wtf is this guy doing..

http://www.hapkido.de/klinger/pics/H...bodenkampf.jpg

is that some advanced armbar i haeven't learned.. ?

[shasan]

nah, it's just an elaborate wrist lock. That is awful technique for an armbar though.

[Toudiyama[NL]]

could be something you flow into if an armbar doesn't work because you can't stretch the arm

[chris davis 200]

yeh - i would say that it is for when the armbar cant be applied so you apply a lock directly down on the wrist.

Could also be a choke using the legs - the bottom leg is underneath, hence the bad position.

Looks like it could work if it was smacked on - broken wrist maybe.

Looks like Hapkido is jumping on the Ground fighting bandwagon.

[Szczepankiewicz]

From what little I understand of Hapkido, that guy is pulling off a non standard move*.

Pulling the wrist back like that looks like a 'goose neck' type of move on the captured wrist. Someone sinks that in and it hurts like hell. The pressure comes from trying to touch the fingertips to the elbow.

The body position has the arm and wrist isolated and the legs are either in postion to prevent the bottom fellow from getting his arms together or it is providing more leverage for the wrist lock.

* In a self defense situation, as I understand it, an Hapkidoist would never want to be flat on their back like that. (And neither would I)

That picture looks more like a 'sports' adaptation than anything else.

Just my take

Spanky

[M@T]

I've done that in arm bar drills before. When you drop an arm bar on someone they'll instinctively try and bend their arm to get out of it. If they do and your quick enough you can grab their hand and use the technique in the picture above.

[Half-Asleep]

looks like he is choking the guy with his legs to me and restraining a lose arm with a wrist lock

[MrPoopy]

I believe a goose neck would work much better in that position than just trying to bend his wrist with both hands like he's doing.

Doesn't look like much of a wrist lock.

[Szczepankiewicz]

I think we are all agree that it doesn't look like much of anything.

Not exactly the picture you want to prove the effectiveness of your art.

[M@T]

Originally posted by Szczepankiewicz
I think we are all agree that it doesn't look like much of anything.

I dont agree at all. I've practised that move a fair few times and believe me, if you execute it right its very painful.

You drop it on someone as they instinctively try to bend their arm to get out of the normal arm bar.

[Szczepankiewicz]

if you execute it right

That is exactly my point. The move might be effective, however, the picture does not illustrate the effectiveness of the move.

It's not a slam against the art, the technique, or the artist. Simply stating that this picture is inconclusive at best.