Why Judo is superior to juijitsu brazilian or otherwise

[kevin green]

If

[JaredExtreme]

*sigh* Brazilian jiu-jitsu came from Japanese judo/jujitsu which is why many of the moves are similar. However, most modern judokas practice more standup grappling than ground grappling, which is the main difference between modern judo and BJJ.

[kevin green]

Originally posted by JaredExtreme
*sigh* Brazilian jiu-jitsu came from Japanese judo/jujitsu which is why many of the moves are similar. However, most modern judokas practice more standup grappling than ground grappling, which is the main difference between modern judo and BJJ.

Please

[Sean Dempsey]

Statements about one art being "superior" to another are pretty hollow and meaningless, when 99% of the artform versus another depends on the fighter, not the art.

Any totally objective statement like that is really hard to prove, maybe impossible. Each has their own effective values, and I don't believe that anything, be it martial art, type of music, religion, or anything else is objectively "superior" or better or anything else.

[JaredExtreme]

Originally posted by kevin green


Please go to Judo info.com and read "The evolution of Judo contest rules" by Neil Ohlenkamp

Negative.

[kevin green]

Originally posted by Sean Dempsey
Statements about one art being "superior" to another are pretty hollow and meaningless, when 99% of the artform versus another depends on the fighter, not the art.

Any totally objective statement like that is really hard to prove, maybe impossible. Each has their own effective values, and I don't believe that anything, be it martial art, type of music, religion, or anything else is objectively "superior" or better or anything else.

[jules]

except in this case is very easily proven.

How? I mean other than Yoshida are there any good MMA fighters who use judo?

Judo was doing leg locks ankle locks etc, over one hundred years ago.

Judo is just a watered down version of old jiu-jitsu.

No way gracie's invented any of it .

No he just improved most of them.

Now they don't even know the modern throwing methods.

What's the use of thowing a guy on a padded MMA mat? What is that going to acomplish?

No comparison.

True indeed. One is a sport another is a proven self defence martial art,

[Half-Asleep]

Correct me if i'm wrong (and it wouldn't be the first time) but wasn't ju jitsu used by the samurai in japan for hand to hand combat and then after that judo was formed. As well as many variation of ju jitsu have been formed. All with a different purpose...

If this is correct or at least certain parts of it then how can u claim that ju jitsu is a rip off of judo when ju jitsu was around b4 judo? and they are 2 different things judo is a sport/fighting system mostly from my knowledge and ju jitsu is just a fighting system and i don't really think than n e one martial art can be better than another in every aspect so i don't really think u should be saying one is better than another

[bhp02]

as far as I am aware, jiujitsu and judo are the same art.
It started being called judo recently and their tournaments
started emphasizing the throws.
At the dojo here in canada, all the old japanese judo senseis
were all trained in Jiujitsu.

[Szczepankiewicz]

One is a sport another is a proven self defence martial art

I'm guessing you're talking about Judo and BJJ in that order. When was BJJ proven to be a self defense martial art? And by whom?

[kevin green]

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[Sean Dempsey]

Well, Judo and BJJ aside, I think you've definitley demonstrated that using caps-lock is a superior way of getting your single-sided view conveyed.

[SweepEm]

Originally posted by kevin green
IT IS THE HUMAN BODY THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING. DYNAMIC MOVEMENT IS JUST HOW THINGS WORK. BUT INSTEAD OF BECOMING CAUGHT UP IN THE CLASSICAL JUDO TEACHING METHODS BECAUSE OF THE COMPETITIVE NATURE OF AN ORGANIZED SPORT THERE ARE SOME THAT HAVE SOUGHT TO IMPROVE SPORT SKILL AND THE SPORT OF JUDO AS A WHOLE. NOT ALL JUDO PEOPLE SUSCRIBE TO THE TIME WORN ARGUMENTS OF CLASSICAL JUDO TEACHING DOCTRINE AND THEREFORE DON'T TRY TO LAY CLAIM TO TO ANY KIND OF FIGHTING METHOD.
I THINK THAT THE TEST IN MODERN jUIJITSU OR EVEN GRACIE JUIJITSU WOULD BE ANY KIND OF ADHERANCE ON BOWING AS "SHOWING RESPECT"!
THIS KIND OF SUPPLICATION IS INDICATIVE OF A CLOSED MIND AND THE GRASPING AT STRAWS RELIANCE ON OLD FASHIONED AND OUTDATED LEFTOVER RELIGOUS DOCTRINE .
AND IT WOULD SHOW JUST AS THE EXCLUSION OF THROWING METHODS, THE UTTER FAILURE YO MODERNIZE THE THINKING PROCESSES.

IN OTHER WORDS PLEASE DON'T TELL ME THAT GRACIE JUIJITSU OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS HAS ANYTHING THAT VAUGELY RESEMBLES BOWING.

I have no idea the point you are making with the shoutng.......even though I read it more than three times.....

Can someone tell me the point KG's trying to make?

[Sean Dempsey]

I believe his point is to discredit Gracie JJ, saying that it is just a cheap, disrespectful, knock-off of traditional Judo (ala, pointing out that BJJ people don't bow, and neglect areas of Judo that he feels are crucial and traditional).

[Szczepankiewicz]

Sweep,

the only point is that KG is a troll in need of banning by the mods.

Spanky