![]() |
![]() |
|
|
||||||
|
|||||||
| Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) & BJJ Forum Discuss the extremely effective art of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, No-Holds-Barred and Mixed Martial Arts with experts worldwide. |
![]() |
|
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools | Rate Thread | Display Modes |
|
|
#1 (permalink) |
|
Registered User
|
i am a white belt in training, I can only go 1 time a week...I want to get more submissions into my arsenal ASAP.
i am going to buy a video course, I want the best out there with the more submissions for my money. Does anyone have any recommendations on training courses? I know know perfection takes time, but i get my but kicked due to lack of knowledge. Thanks Jose
__________________
|
|
|
|
|
|
#2 (permalink) |
|
Novice
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 6
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
![]() |
In your class do you spar? Actually spar? Not just practice moves? Our class is awesome. We spend an hour on instruction then 30 mins with 5 minute rounds sparring each other. You cant spar the same person twice. There are huge guys in our class and also its mixed so you spar with blue and purple belts too. That way , when you go to tournament, a white belt in your class is like simple practice.
Buddy |
|
|
|
|
|
#3 (permalink) | |
|
Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 274
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
![]() |
Quote:
That's misguided, in my opinion. At the white belt stage of bjj, I'd reccomend you focus more on escapes and transitions to dominant positions. But especially escapes. My experience through the white belt stage was that it was far, far, far more effective to escape rather than to go for submissions. I think it is much more effecting to NOT be tapping guys, but also not being tapped yourself. If you're getting tapped, but then tapping a few guys a night, that's not near as important or effective as being able to avoid getting tapped yourself. Most of the guys I train went went 8 months to a year before tapping anyone. But, during that time, they become really good at escapes and maintaining positions. If you get good and not being tapped, then once you decided to add submissions to your rolls, you'll be much more effective. Another thing my instructor always told me was that when you focus on tapping guys, what are you gonna do when you go against someone who's better at jiu jitsu that you? All the submissions in the world won't help you when you're slapping the mat for dear life. I'd spend the first year of your white belt becoming as good as you can at escapes and maintaining positions (guard, mount, crossbody, north-south...). If you aren't effective at positioning and escapes, then submissions are pretty much just there to stroke your ego every time you land one. BJJ is a longterm commitment. A typical progression is 1-2 years as a white belt, 4-5 as a blue, 5-6 as a purple, and then 2-4 as a brown. Don't worry about tapping guys yet, it's along road ahead.
__________________
...making $70,000 a year in pure PROFIT like I am right now from my full time career in Information Technology as a Programmer... - GuardMaster Make up to 7 dollars a year PROFIT like I do right now as a Submission Grappling Joint Relocator! - Sean Dempsey ![]() |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#4 (permalink) |
|
Novice
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 6
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
![]() |
I couldnt agree more! Excellent post. Your absolutely right about that. Mostly when I spar belts higher than me I always get tapped out. I need to work on my escapes and transitions.
Buddy |
|
|
|
|
|
#6 (permalink) |
|
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 388
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
![]() |
I haeven't tapped any higher leveled students yet.. and i have learned that position IS really before submission.. you have to learn to dominate in sidecontrol.. mount.. guard.. topmount.. and so on, before you can think about even trying to submit.. you also have to learn to avoid getting caught.. ! so i agrea with Sean here.. rushing into submissions isn't the wisest thing to do, learn to control your opponents, learn to avoid getting caught..
__________________
any given fighter can beat any given fighter on any given day.. so.. what are you waiting for Rickson, I'm here..
|
|
|
|
|
|
#7 (permalink) |
|
Novice
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 6
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
![]() |
I always seem to be able to get the bicep slicer on a bunch of people. Thats a fun one. I am 5'9" 190lbs. and yesterday was sparring with a 289lbs 5'9" brick house and he landed on my ribs. So today I am really sore and wondering if he may have fractured a rib. Its hard to bend over. But getting someone like that is hard because they are so big when your in the side mount you feel like your not even touching the ground. Plus this guy is solid muscle its hard to know what to do. I'm not great in the side mount. My only things I know of are going into the 'knee in belly' or trying for the arm lock by his head. Maybe a collar choke if he turns sideways.
Buddy |
|
|
|
|
|
#8 (permalink) |
|
Registered User
|
thanks for the advice, I really never thought about it that way.
I guess i should just be patient and learn how not to get beat. this is also my first post here...i am first time poster and long time fight fan. Boxing K1 UFC NHB and all others. It is a passion. thanks again jose
|
|
|
|
|
|
#9 (permalink) |
|
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 719
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
![]() |
Great post Sean! I totally agree.
If you are going for submission in the early stages it's better to have the idea that you should pursue it through position. If your opponent is in your guard try to sweep rather than look for a sub, if you're sidemounted try to get guard again, if you're mounted try to either reverse or get guard back, experiment with open guard stuff to help understand moving your hips, if you're on top try to get mount before you look for a finish, and try not to finish by lower body locks for now. |
|
|
|
![]() |
| Bookmarks |
| Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | Rate This Thread |
|
|