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Old 09-09-2003, 01:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Which MMA does the military incorporate into their close combat or hand to hand combat manuals? For example in the Marines, Rangers, and etc. I also heard escrima is a very popular MA in police academies and in the Army. What is escrima? Detailed answers please, and those with some experience in the military only.
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Which MMA does the military incorporate into their close combat or hand to hand combat manuals? For example in the Marines, Rangers, and etc. I also heard escrima is a very popular MA in police academies and in the Army. What is escrima? Detailed answers please, and those with some experience in the military only.
Well, I have no experience in the military. However, I read in a Blackbelt magazine (either that or some other MA mag) that the Marines use a blend of MA. For example, they use Jujitsu for the ground and Aikido for stand up combat.

I hope this helps.

Btw, do you plan to go into any martial arts?
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yes i am currently taking judo. In a few days I hope to attend AKA or the Gracie Academy in Redwood for BJJ and MT. I also have been thinking about enlisting in the Marines..so yea..
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Inside Kung-fu (august 2002) had an article about the martial arts program os U.S.A marine corps (USMC MAP). In it they told that the USMC MAP has techniques from Karate, Judo, Kung-fu, chin na, aikido, ninjutsu, escrima, jiu-jitsu, thaiboxing and sambo. So it has a lot of things from a lot of arts.
This combination emphasizes the "everything goes" rule and the usage of weapons of opportunity.
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Hmmm someone posted the Army Combat manual on here awhile ago... all of the groundwork was BJJ (establishing position and using strikes or submissions). The standup work was simple punches and low kicks. When I was doing BJJ in Tacoma WA, half the class was Army Rangers since the dojo so close to fort lewis.
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Wow......once again, a bunch of non-military people answer a question when the guy asks for military only.....the first answer to this qiuestion is to look through the old posts...this subject has been covered ad nauseum......second answer is...the MCMAP is a complilatio of martial arts techniques that covers the gamut from boxing strikes to groundfighting.....in the army the current program is based on Brazilian, specifically Gracie Ju-Jitsu. Hate to break it to you, but while many special operations guys do participate in a martial art on their own time, it is NOT a major focus of unit training....there are far to many things to that take priority on the training calender...the most important martial art for the special operations, or any other soldier for that matter, is the "Spirit of the Bayonet."

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LoL NWPTrainer is n00b......
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LoL NWPTrainer is n00b......
Actually, I;ve been around for awhile....I only post if something really catches my attention though....I'd rather spend the time in the gym or with a woman...What does being a newbie to this site have to do with my answer anyway....if you look up the other posts I;ve made, they are all aliong the same lines....

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Trainer, please do not talk to me ever again. Thank you.
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Jared,
Clam down, dude.

In fact, NWPTrainer is correct. Why the hell would the military spend all of their time training in a method of fighting that they will most likely never have to use? It is trained for a variety of reasons ranging from competition to building morale. Soldiers use guns for a reason. In close combat, it's knives and CQB shooting, not boxing or BJJ.

If you actually want to learn something, find the post entitled 'Military Combat.' I believe that it is in the BJJ/MMA forum. One of the key developers of the current Army H2H manual posted extensively. Read and learn. Since we don't have any actual members of the military here (to my knowledge), the original poster's request cannot be met. As a result, the thread will be closed.
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