Attn. Ippon, re:Kumite Ryu Jujitsu

[Mr. Miyagi]

Just a few questions for you. What is kumite ryu jujitsu? Does it have a combination of grappling and striking? Is there full contact sparring involved? Where and who did you train with? Is it the best martial art you trained in? Anything else you want to say about it?
Thanks in advance.

[IPON]

Mr. Miyagi - Kumite Ryu Jujtisu is an extremely hard style of Jujitsu founded by Soke Little John Davis. Soke is an 9th dan in Vee jitsu studying directlyt under Professor Vee and I believe 10th dan in Sanuces Ryu stuyding diectly under Professr Moses Powell. I believe Soke was also a world champ in kunite (I will check this though)

The style was (hard and of course there were some soft aplication). The striking and kicking was essentially Karate Do it incorporates these elements as well as grappling (not ground figting per se)


Soke titiled it "School of Survival" and while there were some classical elements the philosophy and orientation was for street combat. I had to stop I was traveling (and then unemploymet)some much I could not make the classes which were only offered on tues/thur. Yes there was full contact (full range) sparring, (1/2 to 3/4 speed) which was not just kicks/punches but locks and throws.

I studied Directly under Soke Little John and Shihan Shabazz at the 126th Street Dojo. The training conditioning drills were intense and hard (old school) and classes were 2-2.5 hours example of some traing would be shadow boxing with bricks (I con't believe I miss that) Break falls were practiced on concrete as that the reality of the street. The atmosphere was positive and the best thing was that the reality was Soke only taught becuase he loved teaching not really for profit. That was his character....I can

I can honestly say that it was the best experience I have had. I would like to finish traing under Soke but he moved to Tampa. I have not found another school.

everyplace has its good and bad points, some newbies came to the school being used to teh Tiger Shulman Mc Dojo type training were turned off by the training......but a MA that understands MA would say yes real training finally. Hot heads would not last long in the school Soke would tell them to leave and not come back...again his main goal was not profit.

I can tell you that I am not a follower and while I give anyone respect with high ranking becuase of the accomplichment, I may not repect them for thier budo or fighting ability....I am not believer in belts. I was referred by by Master Davis (before his death) whom I studied Tang Soo Do, even with his referral I said alright let see what this guy is about. It actually took me a long time to find Soke becuase he did not advertise. But after I met him his chartacter convinced me right away. I can tell you that I really think that I have been hestitant on studying another style of JJ hoping he would return to NYC.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Thanks a lot. Sounds like a great art to train in. Is there anything else similar to this in the tri-state area? I wanted to do some kind of Jap. JJ with hard training but haven't really found anything. There was one school somewhere in the low 100's off Riverside I believe but I was disappointed to see small children and out-of-shape people with advanced belts there. I'm thinking of looking into JKD too.

[IPON]

MM - Honestly I am still looking. I think I know the dojo you mention on 103rd and riverside in teh basement. I went there and was dissapointed in the training, technique and with Professor Higashi. I realized that he has no lineage in Jujitsu he knows karate, aikido, judo and has studied academically jujitsu

Regarding schools in NJ I know one Of the students of Professor Powell has a school in Hillside...but I know nothing about it good or bad. http://www.hillsidejiujitsu.com/

This is another for NJ studied under Depasquale http://www.newjerseymartialartsacademy.com


I looked at Eizain Ryu on 8th and 2nd very traditional and very good atmosphere and tehy train hard. http://members.tripod.com/~eizan-ryu/index.htm

Most of the schools for jujitsu are in brooklyn and queens. I believe that professor powell still has a dojo on atlantic ave

[Jitsu]

Hi Ippon,

I read your posting; I can appreciate what you’re talking about. I study under Professor Bill McCloud 9th Dan in Sanuces Ryu Jujitsu, 6th Dan in Kumite Ryu and 2nd Dan in vee Jitsu ryu. Grand Master Soke Little John is 10th Dan in Kumite Ryu jujitsu and I believe also 9th Dan in Sanuces Ryu Jujitsu and the list of his credits go on, there can be only one living 10th Dan within a system, for Sanuces Ryu it it is Grand Master Moses Powell. Good news though, there are still a few good schools in NYC, Professor bill teaches Urban Contemporary Ju jitsu a combination of Vee Jitsu Ryu , Sanuces Ryu and Kumite Ryu. There is also professor david James Head instructor for Vee Arnis Jujitsu an there are a few more but your right the don’t do a lot of advertising the good schools never really do.

http://www.urbanjitsu.com/urbanhome.html

[IPON]

Jitsu - thank you I have definately heard of Professor McCloud. I checked the site interesting My problem is that I work in NJ and live in washington heights so going to queen or Bk was not realistic...but the classes are at 8 and 3hours on the weekend 3-6 I may check it out.