Am I normal?

Madchat18 · 09-22-2003, 05:27 PM

I guess I've always had a hunger for 1on1 fighting but I've noticed that whenever I see/read/hear/or even think about fighting I get a major rush. I love all things MMA. I have been fighting for as long as I can remember, my dad says that even as a little kid, I'd pull him into the floor and elbow his stomach :-). Maybe the rush is from lack of training. I went to a local JJ class for about 2 weeks and didn't like it that much. The sensi was more into wristlocks and fancy looking small joint-lock holds. the whole two weeks I only grappled maybe 4 times. Got my first "official" submission on a black-belt TKD guy with a very awkward arm-bar first and then a guillotine choke in our second match. Felt really good. Anyways, I'm rambling but back to the original question, Do any of you out there get the intense urge to spar, and if so, what do you do about it? The obvious question is spar, but the gym on base doesn't have any mats to use, and my friend and I almost got arrested for grappling outside on the grass. :-P Cops thought he was trying to kill me, but I showed them how to do an armbar from the bottom guard position and they kinda got the message that being on the bottom isn't always a bad thing. :-)

BadgerFu57 · 09-22-2003, 05:49 PM

your just like me.... I am in high school and full of energy....

Right now I am wrestling, it's a tough sport for very tough (mentally) people.

I have done Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and loved it (we grappled everyday).

I did TKD but got fed up because the sparring was too unrealistic and kata was useless. They also taught us to "pull" kicks.... without any martial arts training I could have beat any black belt in there just due to my size and strength.

I would fight my friends but they won't let me because I am too good (not bragging, I just train more than they do).... So I look forward to high school wrestling, BJJ, Judo, and doing some boxing and kickboxing. Perhaps when I am old enough I can do MMA..... I have also played football, but right now I prefer the individual sports over team sports.

My suggestion would be to find a boxing/muay thai/brazilain jiu-jitsu/submission wrestling club near you and get started. I love fighting sports because they are just as if not more challenging than street fighting (because you go against someone the same size and skill as you) and they are perfectly LEGAL.

Mr. Heel Hook · 09-22-2003, 10:26 PM

Yeah, pretty much I want to spar everyone I meet. It's kinda wierd sometimes, but the challenge of it is just exciting, ya know?

Madchat18 · 09-22-2003, 10:44 PM

That is so true. My friends think it's funny when I go to the mall or something with them I always see these punk kids and thug-wanna-be's and I always want to roll with them. I'm very vocal about it too, thank god one of my friends is a 6'8" 280lb aspiring body builder. One look at him and the "gangstas" (haha) turn the other way.

I've tried to convince this dude to spar with me but he says he's not the violent type, I think he knows that he'd kill me or something and doesn't want to go to jail, I mean, I have faith in my fighting ability, but sometime you just have to draw the line. This would be like BJ Penn, who is a great fighter BTW, fighting Bob Sapp, who is a great heaping mound of unrefined rage, muscle, and anti-ability. No matter how good Penn is, he'd be squashed.

Any tips on how to fight BIG guys?

Mr. Heel Hook · 09-22-2003, 10:48 PM

Two word answer: Conditioning -- Technique

Sounds a bit cryptic, but it is the ultimate truth, amigo.

Cain · 09-22-2003, 10:54 PM

well, you have advantages as speed... use what you can find..

MMA fanatic · 09-23-2003, 01:15 PM

if ur fool of energy jus 2 an hour of intense cardiovascular training dat will bring u back down 2 earth

Mr. Miyagi · 09-23-2003, 03:29 PM

Against bigger guys I like to sit out while they're sparring on the pretense that I have to go to the bathroom, my knee hurts, etc. After they've been sparring for ten minutes you go up to them are say, "wanna roll?" Unless they're much more advanced than you, their exhaustion will be all you need.

Madchat18 · 09-23-2003, 03:41 PM

Sounds good but this guy is HUGE! He'd break something of mine and beat me with it, I think I'm gonna try to get him tonight when I go to his house. Since his neck is so big, maybe I can triangle choke him, but I dunno if I want him in my guard. Like I said, he's 6'8" 280lb african american male who is an aspiring body builder and I'm a very slender 6'2" 175lb red-headed caucasian male who is an aspiring quotee of," Please sir, I don't know what got into me........What are YOU DOING WITH MY ARM???(*CRACK!!!!SNAP!!!*)........AGGGGG, IT HURTS, IT HURTS! I CAN SEE THE BONE!!!" Please keep me in your prayers, I'll let you guys know how the match goes tonight, even if I have to type with a pencil in my teeth.

gracilva · 09-23-2003, 06:17 PM

lol@madchat18, dont worry you are perfectly normal, im 31 yrs old,2 kids, supposed to be responsible, but i too frequently get the need to roll,fight,brawl, just be thankfull you have someone to spar with, all my mates are lazy bums.
p.s. good luck rolling with your green mile friend, once u learn to control him, you will be able to control anyone, or you could just end up crushed like a bug, all the best.

BadgerFu57 · 09-23-2003, 07:10 PM

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Originally posted by Madchat18
Sounds good but this guy is HUGE! He'd break something of mine and beat me with it, I think I'm gonna try to get him tonight when I go to his house. Since his neck is so big, maybe I can triangle choke him, but I dunno if I want him in my guard. Like I said, he's 6'8" 280lb african american male who is an aspiring body builder and I'm a very slender 6'2" 175lb red-headed caucasian male who is an aspiring quotee of," Please sir, I don't know what got into me........What are YOU DOING WITH MY ARM???(*CRACK!!!!SNAP!!!*)........AGGGGG, IT HURTS, IT HURTS! I CAN SEE THE BONE!!!" Please keep me in your prayers, I'll let you guys know how the match goes tonight, even if I have to type with a pencil in my teeth.

I have a big necks and it makes it hard for people to choke me. My only advice to you, lift weights and get stronger.... or get him in an armbar asap.... most guys with no martial arts experience can fall prety to simple joint manipulations.... once you get the armbar he will try to use his strength to pull out making it worse.

spiderchoke · 09-23-2003, 07:24 PM

Although, I personally think that "normal" is a matter of conforming to the accepted criteria of the masses, I would say that your behavior is common.

You may still have something to prove to yourself. Which is healthy. As long as you don't go around trying to prove things to other people, you shouldn't have anything to worry about.

Martial arts, fighting, testing, etc., these should all be for personal development. If you ever find yourself unsure of what you were trying to prove, or who to, you may want to take a moment to regroup and reflect on what you are doing with the knowledge you have gained.

AND THOSE WERE......"WORDS FROM THE PULPIT" !!!!!!!

Kinda makes me want to weep, like a little wiener dog.

"With Great Power, there also comes, Great Responsability"
........Stan Lee

Madchat18 · 09-23-2003, 09:51 PM

Nicely said spiderchoke, Well i just got back from his house and we didn't grapple or anything but I am in extreme pain. i think I am having an adverse reaction to the smallpox shot I had to get. I can barely move my right arm without major pain, if i hold it still it aches, all my joints (even my neck) feel like metal is scraping against them and I am exhausted. My stomach hurts and I have a headache. If any of you guys have had the shot and had the same reaction, please tell me so I know if it is normal or not... If not I need to go to the hospital (which I HATE DOING!) Hopefully It's just a little fatigue which would be strange cuz I havn't done anything today. Thanks in advance guys

Snarlin Stef · 09-23-2003, 10:48 PM

madchat18

jiu-jitsu may not be your thing.. but many of those fancy joint and wrist locks apply directly to when you are rolling around on the ground. you dont have to be standing to use some them... many BJJ moves are normal JJ moves except on the ground. Just a lil FYI stuff there

anyways... sounds to me that youd love a good muay thai kick boxing class where you spar regularly...

id also recomend that you pick up some of the MA documentaries from Morpheous or WinMx or Kazaa or whatever you use...

one that i know is really good is from the 70s and its called "Warrior Within" (its the documentary given in bruce lee's honor after his death)

anyways i hope that helps

jules · 09-24-2003, 12:37 AM

Are you guys talking about actual fighting or sparring with someone? Madchat18, if you really want to fight someone don't bring your big black friend around, go to ethich neighborhoods and start challenging people. I mean it's not that hard to get into a fight.

09-22-2003, 05:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
Madchat18 Novice Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 46	Am I normal? I guess I've always had a hunger for 1on1 fighting but I've noticed that whenever I see/read/hear/or even think about fighting I get a major rush. I love all things MMA. I have been fighting for as long as I can remember, my dad says that even as a little kid, I'd pull him into the floor and elbow his stomach :-). Maybe the rush is from lack of training. I went to a local JJ class for about 2 weeks and didn't like it that much. The sensi was more into wristlocks and fancy looking small joint-lock holds. the whole two weeks I only grappled maybe 4 times. Got my first "official" submission on a black-belt TKD guy with a very awkward arm-bar first and then a guillotine choke in our second match. Felt really good. Anyways, I'm rambling but back to the original question, Do any of you out there get the intense urge to spar, and if so, what do you do about it? The obvious question is spar, but the gym on base doesn't have any mats to use, and my friend and I almost got arrested for grappling outside on the grass. :-P Cops thought he was trying to kill me, but I showed them how to do an armbar from the bottom guard position and they kinda got the message that being on the bottom isn't always a bad thing. :-)

09-22-2003, 05:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
BadgerFu57 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 437	your just like me.... I am in high school and full of energy.... Right now I am wrestling, it's a tough sport for very tough (mentally) people. I have done Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and loved it (we grappled everyday). I did TKD but got fed up because the sparring was too unrealistic and kata was useless. They also taught us to "pull" kicks.... without any martial arts training I could have beat any black belt in there just due to my size and strength. I would fight my friends but they won't let me because I am too good (not bragging, I just train more than they do).... So I look forward to high school wrestling, BJJ, Judo, and doing some boxing and kickboxing. Perhaps when I am old enough I can do MMA..... I have also played football, but right now I prefer the individual sports over team sports. My suggestion would be to find a boxing/muay thai/brazilain jiu-jitsu/submission wrestling club near you and get started. I love fighting sports because they are just as if not more challenging than street fighting (because you go against someone the same size and skill as you) and they are perfectly LEGAL. __________________ Kodoku So Tsuyoya Ni Kaete

09-22-2003, 10:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
Mr. Heel Hook Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Pepperell MA Posts: 441	Yeah, pretty much I want to spar everyone I meet. It's kinda wierd sometimes, but the challenge of it is just exciting, ya know? __________________ "A deer admires a lion. But all the members of our family are lions. So it doesn't matter which lion I admire. " -Rener Gracie-

09-22-2003, 10:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
Mr. Heel Hook Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Pepperell MA Posts: 441	Two word answer: Conditioning -- Technique Sounds a bit cryptic, but it is the ultimate truth, amigo. __________________ "A deer admires a lion. But all the members of our family are lions. So it doesn't matter which lion I admire. " -Rener Gracie-

09-22-2003, 10:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
Cain Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 388	well, you have advantages as speed... use what you can find.. __________________ any given fighter can beat any given fighter on any given day.. so.. what are you waiting for Rickson, I'm here..

09-22-2003, 10:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
Madchat18 Novice Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 46	That is so true. My friends think it's funny when I go to the mall or something with them I always see these punk kids and thug-wanna-be's and I always want to roll with them. I'm very vocal about it too, thank god one of my friends is a 6'8" 280lb aspiring body builder. One look at him and the "gangstas" (haha) turn the other way. I've tried to convince this dude to spar with me but he says he's not the violent type, I think he knows that he'd kill me or something and doesn't want to go to jail, I mean, I have faith in my fighting ability, but sometime you just have to draw the line. This would be like BJ Penn, who is a great fighter BTW, fighting Bob Sapp, who is a great heaping mound of unrefined rage, muscle, and anti-ability. No matter how good Penn is, he'd be squashed. Any tips on how to fight BIG guys?

09-23-2003, 01:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
MMA fanatic Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 84	if ur fool of energy jus 2 an hour of intense cardiovascular training dat will bring u back down 2 earth __________________ HaRd WoRk REWARDS

09-23-2003, 03:29 PM	#8 (permalink)
Mr. Miyagi Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 719	Against bigger guys I like to sit out while they're sparring on the pretense that I have to go to the bathroom, my knee hurts, etc. After they've been sparring for ten minutes you go up to them are say, "wanna roll?" Unless they're much more advanced than you, their exhaustion will be all you need.

09-23-2003, 03:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
Madchat18 Novice Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 46	Sounds good but this guy is HUGE! He'd break something of mine and beat me with it, I think I'm gonna try to get him tonight when I go to his house. Since his neck is so big, maybe I can triangle choke him, but I dunno if I want him in my guard. Like I said, he's 6'8" 280lb african american male who is an aspiring body builder and I'm a very slender 6'2" 175lb red-headed caucasian male who is an aspiring quotee of," Please sir, I don't know what got into me........What are YOU DOING WITH MY ARM???(CRACK!!!!SNAP!!!)........AGGGGG, IT HURTS, IT HURTS! I CAN SEE THE BONE!!!" Please keep me in your prayers, I'll let you guys know how the match goes tonight, even if I have to type with a pencil in my teeth.

09-23-2003, 06:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
gracilva Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 293	lol@madchat18, dont worry you are perfectly normal, im 31 yrs old,2 kids, supposed to be responsible, but i too frequently get the need to roll,fight,brawl, just be thankfull you have someone to spar with, all my mates are lazy bums. p.s. good luck rolling with your green mile friend, once u learn to control him, you will be able to control anyone, or you could just end up crushed like a bug, all the best. __________________ peace.....for now

09-23-2003, 07:24 PM	#12 (permalink)
spiderchoke Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 134	Although, I personally think that "normal" is a matter of conforming to the accepted criteria of the masses, I would say that your behavior is common. You may still have something to prove to yourself. Which is healthy. As long as you don't go around trying to prove things to other people, you shouldn't have anything to worry about. Martial arts, fighting, testing, etc., these should all be for personal development. If you ever find yourself unsure of what you were trying to prove, or who to, you may want to take a moment to regroup and reflect on what you are doing with the knowledge you have gained. AND THOSE WERE......"WORDS FROM THE PULPIT" !!!!!!! Kinda makes me want to weep, like a little wiener dog. "With Great Power, there also comes, Great Responsability" ........Stan Lee __________________ "Every Man I meet is in some way my superior.....In that, I learn of him." .......Ralph Waldo Emerson

09-23-2003, 09:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
Madchat18 Novice Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 46	Nicely said spiderchoke, Well i just got back from his house and we didn't grapple or anything but I am in extreme pain. i think I am having an adverse reaction to the smallpox shot I had to get. I can barely move my right arm without major pain, if i hold it still it aches, all my joints (even my neck) feel like metal is scraping against them and I am exhausted. My stomach hurts and I have a headache. If any of you guys have had the shot and had the same reaction, please tell me so I know if it is normal or not... If not I need to go to the hospital (which I HATE DOING!) Hopefully It's just a little fatigue which would be strange cuz I havn't done anything today. Thanks in advance guys

09-23-2003, 10:48 PM	#14 (permalink)
Snarlin Stef Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 45	madchat18 jiu-jitsu may not be your thing.. but many of those fancy joint and wrist locks apply directly to when you are rolling around on the ground. you dont have to be standing to use some them... many BJJ moves are normal JJ moves except on the ground. Just a lil FYI stuff there anyways... sounds to me that youd love a good muay thai kick boxing class where you spar regularly... id also recomend that you pick up some of the MA documentaries from Morpheous or WinMx or Kazaa or whatever you use... one that i know is really good is from the 70s and its called "Warrior Within" (its the documentary given in bruce lee's honor after his death) anyways i hope that helps __________________ Vee Jiu Jitsu, Arnis-Kali, Muay Thai Kickboxing, Tai Chi "I've seen some cats do some crazy stuff like bending swords with their necks and breaking flaming bricks... thats great and all but can they fight?" shrugs Moses Powell (Warrior Within) http://norwalkmartialarts.com/mainpage.htm

09-24-2003, 12:37 AM	#15 (permalink)
jules Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 474	Are you guys talking about actual fighting or sparring with someone? Madchat18, if you really want to fight someone don't bring your big black friend around, go to ethich neighborhoods and start challenging people. I mean it's not that hard to get into a fight.

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