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Old 09-28-2003, 04:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default my first loss in comp why? WHAT?

fought my first tournament today as white belt, 3months in.

Fought a 18 month white belt giving up 17lbs. I shot first...after that it all went blank...i did not know what the heck i was doing. I heard the crowd shouting yelling saying do this do that..cofusion set in...
needless to say i did all the wrong stuff, at the wrong time, nothing i trained before materialized except the tap.

What happened?

i lost by mount then to arm bar

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Old 09-28-2003, 04:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Considering none of us were there, and since you didn't place some type of video link of the match to your msg, I don't see how your "what happened" question could possibly be answered in any practical sense.

My guess would be though that since it was your first tournament, you panicked, and thus lost. But you already knew that much, considering you said it in your own msg.
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Old 09-28-2003, 06:23 AM   #3 (permalink)
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if you dont remember, it sounds like you got a major adrenalin rush.
you will learn to control that with a few more comps, and as you said your opponent had a weight advantage and over a years worth of training on you.
dont get down on yourself mate, learn from it and use it to motivate you.

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Old 09-28-2003, 03:00 PM   #4 (permalink)
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well heavy people have an advantage when grappling. the adrenline rush make u forget wot u was supposed 2 do? more u practise the more naturally awre u will be wen doing move in a real comp.

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In truth, I wouldn't even give it another thought. The lose that is. Look back and see what you think you did wrong and ask the people who went with you.

The only thing I could guess with what happened is you simply don't have the experiance. That person had more than a year of training on you. That is a lot.

Best things you can do is just keep training. After you train and train and train that rush you felt will be more tempered. You want to be as cool as possible in a match up and use as little energy as you can. All these things you will learn as time goes on. Be proud that you actualy went to the event. Not too many 3 month white belts I ever knew would do that.


Congradulations dude,
you did well no matter the out come.
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Most people freeze up the first few times they're in a tournament. The best thing you can do is keep entering - go in as many as you can. That way, competition fighting will become as natural to you as training on the mat, and then you'll be able to start using the techniques you train with.

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have someone give you a nice hard slap across the jaw about 5 minutes before you enter the "ring". Hard enough to really alert the hell out of you, but not do damage or take away from the upcoming fight.

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Was your adversary commited to a move? Or did you just shoot trying to catch him? Never shoot until they are COMMITED to doing a kick or punch or lunge or whatever, you need to shoot when they are already doing a movement that isn't retractable quickly.

3 x 6 = 18. This guy had about 6 times the training as you. It'd be like you fighting a person who has 2 weeks of training.




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pls dont tell me weight advantage makes no difference,or they wouldn't have weight divisions in tournaments.
i do agree though that in bjj it is not as relevent as say boxing
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18 month white belt?? In some places thats enough to be a blue belt. Anyway, just going to a tournament is a major accomplishment. A lot of people are too scared to compete in public. As for being confused, you just have to follow your instincts and filter out all the noise.
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jg - I think you did a good job...cut yourself some slack, I mean only 3 months you took a big risk and now you know how to train differently. Honestly, from a sports perspective don't worry about the person experience or weight (it is with in your weight class right?). Heavyweights can give up 50lbs and noone thinks twice about it (generally speaking)

I wrestled a few heavyweights when I was in H.S., gave up alittle over 30 lbs and won - If I lost I would not think about the weight (or how unfair it was for my coach to make me drink gallons of water to meet the 2 weight class limit). My piont is that a win is a win and a loss is a loss, and focus on the things that went wrong to improve (whether you win or loose). Just learn from the loss, it is quite possible that you may have been technically better than the other guy and just took your self out of the match.

Againg, be proud of youself to have the guts to compete in any case.
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Maybe you just SUCK!!! LOL!!! Kidding of course...just getting in and competing is an accomplishment.
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I had kinda the same experience my first time in a tournament in BJJ. I got in there after training in BJJ for only 1 month thinking that I was going to be fighting someone of similar size and knowledge. I was wrong!!!!!

When they took up all the names and divided the divisions up they told us they did not have enough people in heavyweight to do a beginner and advanced division so they had to go together (that's real fair!!). Anyhow my first match I got a blue belt that had been wrestling all his life and outweighed me by about 50lbs.

To make matters worse I was coming in off an injury (dislocated shoulder 4 weeks before) and I was kinda nervous about that being that it was not healed all the way and I didn't have much strength in that arm.

When the match started we locked up and he immediately started attacking that hurt shoulder over and over and I went into a state of panic and forgot all my training and just lost big time.

I had a second match with a guy that outweighed me by about 80-100lbs. and was about 7' tall. I could have beaten him easily (his BJJ sucked and he didn't have much co-ordination) but the shoulder was weak before the first match and it was just completely shot for the second. Guess the guy could tell I was favoring the shoulder and he attacked it immediately.

I beat myself up alot after that, but I final realized that it was just a tournament and moved on. Now I look back on it and laugh because I have gained alot of knowledge since then and have gotten alot better at my jiu-jitsu. All you can truly do is just put it in the past and move on and someday you will get another chance and you just have to give it your all. Don't let one bad match hold you back cuz if I did that I would just quit and never get back on the mat again.

I don't care who they are or where they have been if they say they don't loose they are full of crap.
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