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View Poll Results: What combination of styles are the best for self-defense?
MuayThai and Judo 8 7.41%
MuayThai and Submission Wrestling 22 20.37%
MuayThai and Jujitsu 47 43.52%
Karate and grappling arts 5 4.63%
Kung Fu and grappling arts 14 12.96%
TKD and grappling 9 8.33%
Kung Fu and karate 0 0%
Kung Fu,Karate,TKD 1 0.93%
Judo with another grappling art 2 1.85%
Neither of them 16 14.81%
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Old 10-02-2003, 05:06 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Actually Huey,Goju Ryu Karate Do means soft/hard style empty hand way.

Go=hard , Ju=soft , Ryu=style , karate=empty hand , do= way
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Huey...yes that is more clear
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Default best combo.

straight up wrestling combined with kickboxing is the best overall for a street fighter.
judo combined with gung fu is best for the action actor needing to make a good impression with the audience.
the most popular seems to be ju-jitsu and muay tai for overall combined preference for winning fights.
what's the most popular sequence of styles for creating the impression of a competent fighter for a movie,other than cgi technology?
i say judo and gung fu cause judo has throws and gung fu has intricately detailish and various tricky tactical sequences to enable the illusion of an okay fighter being an awesome unstoppable hero taking down multiple adversaries.
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Default Wrong Definition of Terms!!!!!!!

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Actually Huey,Goju Ryu Karate Do means soft/hard style empty hand way.

Go=hard , Ju=soft , Ryu=style , karate=empty hand , do= way

In Japanese Term = Goju

In Chinese Term = GoCho ( or NgoCho) ( or WuZu )

In English Translation = Five Anscestors

GoCho ( NgoChoKun ) = Five Anscestors Fist
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straight up wrestling combined with kickboxing is the best overall for a street fighter.
judo combined with gung fu is best for the action actor needing to make a good impression with the audience.
the most popular seems to be ju-jitsu and muay tai for overall combined preference for winning fights.
what's the most popular sequence of styles for creating the impression of a competent fighter for a movie,other than cgi technology?
i say judo and gung fu cause judo has throws and gung fu has intricately detailish and various tricky tactical sequences to enable the illusion of an okay fighter being an awesome unstoppable hero taking down multiple adversaries.
The best COMBO is:
The martial art style or system that is not familiar to an opponent when the fight begins.

for example:

a combination of either long distance fights like TaiChi, Lohan, WuXingQuan, or any kungfu long distance fights combined to WingChun, GoCho, Hsing-I Chuan or any kungfu short distance fights. A combination of Long and short distance fights.

or....

a combination of either hard kungfu systems or styles like Arhats, ShaolinFist, ChangChuan, Spring Leg Style, Tiger and Leopard Style combined to a soft style kungfu systems like Pa-Kua, Hsing-I, Chin-Na etc.

Note:
all that i mention is all in a KungFu Category, cause all that i mention is mostly not familiar to any non-chinese martial artists.

Another Note:
If you are not familiar to a kungfu style or system attacked to you, how can you defend it?????????

Is there any stupid comments again? Like green words to post? just defend my quote in a manner maybe i'll changed my art if i am agree with your comments.
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If you are not familiar to a kungfu style or system attacked to you, how can you defend it?????????
Unless your style allows you to grow extra limbs it's not going to be so new that a semi-competent fighter can't defend it.
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The best COMBO is:
The martial art style or system that is not familiar to an opponent when the fight begins.
so let me see if i understand this. are you supposed to politely ask your assailant what style or system he trains in before he starts to attack you.
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Military Sanda sounds interesting.

http://www.judoinfo.com/books/faq3.htm
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The Sanshou as practiced by the Chinese military is based on the
Chinese Art of War, physics, anatomy, bio-mechanics, and human
physiology. It is a complete system of realistic unarmed combat
covering the skills of striking, grappling, wrestling, groundfighting,
and weapon defenses taken from various Chinese and foreign martial
arts and hand-to-hand combat styles.
It focuses on applying the
principles of combat rather than on techniques. The various
divisions of the military and police force have slight differences in
technique, but they all employ the same principles.

Military and civilian Sanshou training involves many punching,
kicking, grappling, wrestling, groundfighting, and weapon defense
drills with a partner. Contact sparring with protective gear is also
emphasized. This is where the different skills are blended together
into one fluid art. There are no forms or formal stances, and no
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all that i mention is all in a KungFu Category, cause all that i mention is mostly not familiar to any non-chinese martial artists.

Another Note:
If you are not familiar to a kungfu style or system attacked to you, how can you defend it?????????

Is there any stupid comments again? Like green words to post? just defend my quote in a manner maybe i'll changed my art if i am agree with your comments.
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so let me see if i understand this. are you supposed to politely ask your assailant what style or system he trains in before he starts to attack you.

You expected that you're opponent will fight you using his fist but its not...

For example of a style not familiar to you:

I should fight using my art of AngKa (a kungfu popular for its medium to long range reach attack ) then i would not permit you to enter unto my close range. If i manage to do it that you could not enter unto my short range, you might think that you should fight me in the close range - then that is actually my primary art - is the ChiDianBun ( kungfu popular for its short to ultra short range hand attacks ).

And if you might thing that my kungfu is too scientific (ChiDianBun KungFu) and too hard almost external (AngKa KungFu) i still have my favorite art of TaiChiaKun (TaiChiChuan KungFu) and its soft to all distance reach of fighting.

I really hate the art of boxing, Thai Boxing and tae kwon do. But if my opponent knows that arts, how about if.... he fight me using his boxing and as a surprise.... after several boxing fists attacks me he suddenly switch to tae kwon do kicks and more tae kwon do kicks and as a finale - Thai Boxing. I rather conclude that it also effective.

You see? its a surprise attack that you cannot expected!!!!! But i know all of boxing attacks especially Tae kwon do and Thai boxing cause many like to teach me but i feel that art is not compatible to me. So i guess to use the art of KungFu cause many of its strokes is not familiar to an opponent.
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All MA are good for self defense, but some are better than others for specific arenas. For example the best arts for UFC are different than the best arts for military Special Forces. Just like a good art for a Bar fight is not the same as a back ally fight. Home invasions still differs. Police require something completely different than the above. This is my take:

A. UFC you don’t have to worry about going to the ground, multiple opponents, weapons, etc. A good striking art and grappling art will do.
B. Bar Fights usually get broken up pretty quickly and is not to the highest life threating situation. Bar fight you have to worry about your opponents friends. A standup striking art along with boxing is the key focus.
C. In the military you have two capture and restrain or kill and you’ll posses weapons to do so. You’ll need to know how to use them. A strong weapons art and strong standing grappling art should be the focus.
D. Police on the other hand use levels of threat. i.e. if an opponent raises his fist police are trained to draw their baton or night stick and if they pull a knife police pull a gun. A good standing grappling art should be the min. and a strong weapons are would be encouraged only to understand the wielding weapons of their opponents.
E. The back ally type fight is for survival and a good pair of running shoes is best. A weapons art and standing striking art should be the key focus for men. Women should focus on weapons, ground grappling and thought prevention to not get into the situation in the first place.
F. For the home invasion. Weapons and ground grappling should be at the top of your list.
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I think that any combination of martial art is effective if u accually train it. When i was a green belt i could beat most of the black belts i cam e in contact with hands down, becasue.... I had a real dedication to the art its self. INstead of concentrating on patterns and forms like most black belts outs there I spent most of my mental energy perfecting my movements, speed and reaction time. Most imporant tool i have now is knowing foot work and self control. WHich means knowing exactly where my opponents can strike me and where i can strike him, by judging the length of there limbs and such. By doing this i can remove my self from the effective fighting range. Get it. I also find it very important to learn take downs form all ranges, short medium close rang ect. For instance a fast leg only takedown like a "scorpian kick" take down as some people know it, lets me attack form very far range and take a opponent down. I dunno i gotta run here so i will comeback again later.
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For me the best combinations is not on there!

Yes technical ability and type of system are important.

But as a combination,
Things like; aggression, fitness,strength, size , will to win and streetfighting experience would serve you better than many martial arts that I have encountered !

But purely hyperthetically, the best two combinations from your list,
in my biased opinion are quite simply the two most realistic!

There is no magic secret style!

Simply the styles with the least amount of rules!

Without meaning to criticise any martial art,
But if you look at an art and watch them in "combat" or "sparring"
you will see, say for example Karate!........... "rules,rules,rules"

In comparison to full muay thai rules!

So which is more realistic?

Good Jui jitsu is realistic you basically grapple until someone submits!
Not bogged down with "rules,rules,rules"

So for me Full muay thai and bjja.

But wrestling is also good.

As the main reason that many people learn martial arts is for street-self-defence,
I'd like to reiterate my original point, that most of the effective street fighters that I have ever known have had no training whatsoever!
Some of those people are just born lucky I guess......natural-born-fighters!
and i just thought that Charles bronson existed only in the movies!
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