Best combination of arts.

[darrianation]

The way I see it to be effective in the street takes more then a few MAs strung together.

1) You need to be able to fight in all the ranges from outside range to the ground.
2) You need to know weapons and defenses against weapons.

However the arts that like the best in combination is:
1) Mt
2) Bjj

But you also need a weapons based MA that concentrates heavily in the knife and stick.

If you are truly serious about self-defense then you should also consider learning firearms.

The most important thing to self-defense regardless of style or system is mindset- mental toughness!

The things you should be looking for in SD systems are:

1) Mindset
2) Based in science
3) Reality
4) Psychology
5) Anatomy, physiology, kinesiology
6) Techniques in all the combat ranges
7) Weapons
8) Full contact drills
9) Use of force and the law
10) Realistic scenario training

Note: Do not look to traditional MAs like Karate or Kung Fu for self-defense!

[John_M]

i have witnessed boxing and sambo to be a effective mix but not the best

[CHOKE UK]

Muat thai aand bjja seem to be quite prominent.
Which shows the experience and and understanding of the people on this site.

They are simply more efective and less cluttered with impractical rules.

But beware there are good and bad in all arts!

People often confuse kickboxing with full muay thai.
They are very different!
I prefer mt to kickboxing and kickboxing to karate!

Not all karate is poor but much of it is so money based and impractical that it can border on being a stand-alone sport and not a martial art !

I repeat not all, some are good but you have to travel far and wide to find a good one

Also you need to be good at both mt and bjja.

If someone is good at bjja and thinks that they dont need bjja,
then go to a good class and roll with them.....
you will quickly realise that you are a "fish out of water!"

And vice versa, good and bjja and dont need mt?,
then get into the ring and you will see what you lack!

But even being good at both these,
you can still get a good hiding from a seasoned street fighter !!!!

Perhaps thats why Charles Bronson never loses!
(well except when he tries his karate moves!)

[CKD]

"And vice versa, good and bjja and dont need mt?,
then get into the ring and you will see what you lack!" Choke U.K
Crosley Gracie did that. He was doing pretty good in his match until he did a double leg and got suspended But that is pretty good considering his backround is pure bjj and all the striking techniques he used were from bjj.

[darrianation]

For self-defense it really comes down to this: You need striking, you need some grappling,weapons, a whole lota' mindset, and some good ol' realistic hard training!

[darrianation]

And of course realistic weapons training! Remember weapons are superior to hands and feet.

[CHOKE UK]

Originally Posted by HandtoHand

MT, MT, MT, yes Muay Thai is the best art out there. I do MT so it has to be the ultimate. These polls are getting old they're just a spinoff of what's the best martail art.

BTW: I voted Muay Thai and JJ, so i'm not getting down on MT its just that this Muay Thai is better than everything else crap is getting old.

I like what Choke_UK said about defining factors in fighting, although styles do play a factor.

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Yes I agree hand to hand.
the polls are old hat.
But there are still people who dont believe,
even after the same conclusions are reached each time!

hand to hand....what did you do before mt?
and how do you compare the two ?

You do realise that unless you ate a black belt 10th dan that you are not allowed to have an opinion, according to some members on this forum!

[Mister]

Muay Thai has excellent striking, and BJJ has excellent ground grappling.

But I would also take an art that concentrates more on throws and takedowns, those would be useful especially if there are multiple attackers. Chances are youre attacker(s) wont know how to defend against them. You wont have time to sit there exchanging with 3 guys, eventually they'll tackle you down which is where they want you to be so they can stomp you etc. Not saying a good striker wouldnt be able take on 3 guys, he might especially if he strikes pre-emptively but sadly you dont always have a chance to do that..

In that case if you put one of them on the ground, it could give you a chance to run, which is probably the best option if they have concealed weapons such as knives. Also a good, slamming takedown or throw onto the concrete (or off a bridge, or onto a fire hydrant!) will probably hurt a person very badly .

So in my opinion, if I could choose only two I would substitute Muay Thai with San Shou. But if I could choose three Id probably choose Muay Thai, San Shou, BJJ. (Depends what San Shou gym youre going to actually if they work TDs and throws extensively) If I could choose five Id add Judo to the list and last but not least some art that trains extensively with weapons... So many arts, so little time!!

Negative side to TDs and throws- Hard to do against heavy opponent.

[wong sheung]

BJJ, Muay Thai, Western Boxing, Greco Roman wrestling, and Kali.

[hEmPY]

FUKK!!
BJJ, a street effective?

No! It is not effective. Dunno how u fight there, but its not gonna happen like on the ring. When ya go for a takedown your face is open for punches, for knees, and even if ya take me to tha ground I bite you, I kick ya to tha groin. Btw, never saw guy fight single. If ya have to fight, u fight a gang, not only one.

I do boxin. I add judo/MT and maybe Kali sticks/nunchuku soon. ZZZZZzzzzz

[jubaji]

Originally Posted by hEmPY

FUKK!!
BJJ, a street effective?

No! It is not effective. Dunno how u fight there, but its not gonna happen like on the ring. When ya go for a takedown your face is open for punches, for knees, and even if ya take me to tha ground I bite you, I kick ya to tha groin. Btw, never saw guy fight single. If ya have to fight, u fight a gang, not only one.

I do boxin. I add judo/MT and maybe Kali sticks/nunchuku soon. ZZZZZzzzzz

This is the best joke you could come up with?

[hEmPY]

me joke? If I had to joke, Id make you a bro, son.

[jubaji]

Originally Posted by hEmPY

me joke? If I had to joke, Id make you a bro, son.

Is that random collection of words a message of some sort?

[Satashi]

Combat Ki and... Ju Jitsu and some self tought martial arts would be the best mixed in with kenpo and NinJitsu

[El Mastero]

The Brazilian arts are the best. I would definately choose Capoeira for it's deadly striking skills. The Lambada (forbidden dance) for the clinch work. And finally BJJ for the ground skills. It's a total Brazilian art. j/k

Nah, I'd take up OJKD for the standup and JKDC for weapons and grappling.