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View Poll Results: What combination of styles are the best for self-defense?
MuayThai and Judo 8 7.41%
MuayThai and Submission Wrestling 22 20.37%
MuayThai and Jujitsu 47 43.52%
Karate and grappling arts 5 4.63%
Kung Fu and grappling arts 14 12.96%
TKD and grappling 9 8.33%
Kung Fu and karate 0 0%
Kung Fu,Karate,TKD 1 0.93%
Judo with another grappling art 2 1.85%
Neither of them 16 14.81%
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Old 09-29-2003, 06:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What are the best combinations of martial arts?

I feel any two arts that teach realistic self-defense, which not many styles do.

What do you think are the best combinations?
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I don't see Shotokan&TaiChi......
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I take it that Ju jitsu it is meant as BJJ or GJJ?
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tkd and tae bo....hands down the most effective combination
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Wing Tsun and Kali/Escrima (I mean for self-defense purposes)

Muay Thai+BJJ+Luta Livre for UFC :-)
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Right now I'm doing Judo and Muay Thai-I think this is an effective combination as most fights end up from striking to a grappling contest, plus training for them is intense and as realistic as you can get for real combat/fighting situations.
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Right now I'm doing Judo and Muay Thai-I think this is an effective combination as most fights end up from striking to a grappling contest, plus training for them is intense and as realistic as you can get for real combat/fighting situations.
I absolutely agree for that exact reason,however MT is good with any grappling art not just Judo but it is still an awesome combination for self-defense.
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Karate, Ju Jitsu and Gung-Fu!
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muay thai, ju jitsu, arnis (vee arnis jitsu)
specifically meant for self defense. It covers every area; from striking, to locks and some ground work, to weapons. what else do you need?
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muay thai, ju jitsu, arnis (vee arnis jitsu)
specifically meant for self defense. It covers every area; from striking, to locks and some ground work, to weapons. what else do you need?
Sounds like an awesome and a very realistic combination to me.
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best combination= whatever works for you personally.
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karate and kung fu?

karate is based off of the foundations and basics of kung fu in its stances, strikes, linear movements, etc.
you can't have kung fu without karate. you can however have karate without kung fu as is done all over the world.
the stances are the same in the begining but it is the fluid movements that follow and the changing to circular movements that shift you from the hard style basics to kung fu.
how many styles or systems out their based on either kung fu or karate and even tkd don't have a horse stance? a hard bow? a cat stance? or teach hard blocks?
but how many styles in the same categories use all of these and soft bows, cross steps, mantis stance/ natural stance?
these would represent the majority of kung fu styles. kung fu uses it all while the majority of karate styles only use the hard linear techniques and stances.

i practice shou shu. a chinese art that has takedowns, throws, strikes, kicks, breaks, and joint locks in seven different styles all for street defense.

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karate and kung fu?

karate is based off of the foundations and basics of kung fu in its stances, strikes, linear movements, etc.
you can't have kung fu without karate. you can however have karate without kung fu as is done all over the world.
Karate has its roots in Gung-Fu, not vice versa! No "pure" Gung-Fu system EVER "originated" from Karate. Using the Hard vs. Soft style is no basis either as Gung-Fu "originated" both!

Your logic is tainted.
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Huey:

Some gong fu styles use linear others cirvular,the same with Karate
Both Gong fu and Karate are generic terms, they do not say much about the techniques
for instance Okinawa Goju uses a lot of circular motion

Were as Tang Shou Tao is a linear Gong fu style
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karate and kung fu?
karate is based off of the foundations and basics of kung fu in its stances, strikes, linear movements, etc.
you can't have kung fu without karate. you can however have karate without kung fu as is done all over the world.
karate is inside kung fu, kung fu is not inside karate. karate is the basics for kung fu, karate originated from kung fu. this is exactly what i said above but i guess another way to say this is:

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Karate has its roots in Gung-Fu, not vice versa! No "pure" Gung-Fu system EVER "originated" from Karate. Using the Hard vs. Soft style is no basis either as Gung-Fu "originated" both!
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Some gong fu styles use linear others cirvular,the same with Karate Both Gong fu and Karate are generic terms, they do not say much about the techniques for instance Okinawa Goju uses a lot of circular motion
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Tang Shou Tao is not, in itself, a martial art. Rather it is a structure or format for training in the three main Chinese internal martial arts: Hsing-I, Pa Kua, and Tai Chi. The internal martial arts, as opposed to the the external arts, are characterized by their extensive focus on breathing technique, open palm strikes, and the utilization of a body mechanics that aims at the development of large amounts of force within small and subtle movements. Additionally, where most of the external forms of Chinese Kung Fu have a Buddhist heritage--often linked in some way or another to the Shaolin Temples--the internal styles of Kung Fu have an explicitly Taoist character and lineage.
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Goju-Ryu Karate was founded by Chojun Miyagi. Sensei Miyagi had spent years in China training with the Chinese masters of White Crane style Kung Fu before returning to Okinawa to formulate what is now known as Okinawan Goju-Ryu Karate Do.
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Goju Ryu Karate-Doh literally means 'The Way of the Half Hard, Half Soft System of Empty Hand.'
let me take a step back because i may have written things down a little carelessly. the point i was trying to make is that kung/gong fu have everything which is karate but karate doesn't have all that is kung/gong fu. so that the idea of having karate and kung fu as a combination for fighting is not realistic.

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these would represent the majority of kung fu styles. kung fu uses it all while the majority of karate styles only use the hard linear techniques and stances.
i did write "majority" in there.

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