Would Bruce Lee win UFC fights had he been still alive and willing to compete?

MuayThaiFighter · 10-01-2003, 07:27 AM

Everyone knows Bruce Lee as a skinny oriental guy with amazing martial arts experience.

He is known both as martial artist and actor. His movements and speed shown on movies was shocking to all those who saw him in action.Some people believe the way he could fight as a martial artist in movies is the way he could fight as a martial artist in real life.

However no one really knows for sure since Bruce Lee was not interested in competition and put down many martial artists and telling them what he thought they lacked.

If Bruce Lee was alive, and if he were to agree to fight in UFC, do you think he would win ?

I definitely think Bruce Lee despite how good people knew him at being a martial artist would still lose in something like UFC.

As a martial artist he was more of a guy with outstanding technique and power but lacked the true fighting ability and mind set.

What do you guys think?

Kurt · 10-01-2003, 08:23 AM

Well he would be like 64 years old, I don't think he would be in any physical condition to keep up with the fighters of UFC.

But if he were to be in he's "prime" it would be a nice thought to see him win, but, I've never seen him put to the test, end of the day he was known more for he's acting, not beating the shit out of people.

Anyway, got to go, I'm of to see 50 cent

jules · 10-01-2003, 08:53 AM

Well Helio and Carlos were "skinny guys" and they were hard as nails. Who knows? If it was in his weight class i would say he would be one of the top ones.

Great Sage · 10-01-2003, 12:38 PM

I like Popeye's chances better... I mean after the spinach, who knows the UFC would never be the same.

Benjamin Dover · 10-01-2003, 02:16 PM

It's pretty hard to say now that he has been dead for like 31 years!!! Fighter or not he is a great martial artist who has revolutionized the martial arts worldwide.

c0bra · 10-01-2003, 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by Kurt
Well he would be like 64 years old, I don't think he would be in any physical condition to keep up with the fighters of UFC.

But if he were to be in he's "prime" it would be a nice thought to see him win, but, I've never seen him put to the test, end of the day he was known more for he's acting, not beating the shit out of people.

Anyway, got to go, I'm of to see 50 cent

actually he did beat the shit out of people in street fights when he was filming enter the dragon

osopardo · 10-01-2003, 05:36 PM

..........

Sean Dempsey · 10-01-2003, 06:10 PM

Bruce Lee is quoted admitted that he would NEVER get into a ring with Muhammed Ali, for fear that Ali would take his head off.

he said something like "Get into a ring with a guy 100lbs heavier than me and just as fast as I am? never happen".

Even the Dragon himself admits he'd most assuradly face defeat against that mere boxer.

The REAL question is could a present day Lee take on a present day Ali. Now THATS a fight. They could fight over the jello pudding packs in the resthome.

IPON · 10-01-2003, 06:16 PM

I don't think there is a question that Bruce was involved in a lot of street fight or had a fighters spirit. I definately think that Bruce would loose (championship) even in his prime. Size is definatly a factor UFC remember the Kempo guy "giant killer" could you imagine 120lb bruce against near 7ft 600+ lb jello fat ball with 6 boobs, that was packaged as humanoid sumo......whoa.

Also I don't think Bruce acknowleged sport combat as true combat and basically felt it was not worth his time. He did demonstrations of wingchun power in 1 inch punch but that was it. On a technical note I also think he was extremely defensless if a grappler could close the gap, I know judo gene labelle but him on his butt many times while "sparring"

The ground game means pain

I put this in another post (not verbatim) when bruce was asked about fighting Muhamd Ali, he said: "if I fight him in the ring with his rules he (ali) will beat me......but if we fight by my rules [no rule] I will beat him badly"

JaredExtreme · 10-01-2003, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MuayThaiFighter
Everyone knows Bruce Lee as a skinny oriental guy with amazing martial arts experience.

The preferred nomenclature is Asian American.

(from the Big Lebowski)

Nick · 10-01-2003, 08:11 PM

He was Chinese.

And yes, I think he could have done fairly well in the UFC. Invincible, no, but he studied grappling as well and I think he could have held his own well enough to punch back, if tackled.

But striking was definitely his strong point.

Later...

JaredExtreme · 10-01-2003, 09:06 PM

Actually Nick you are wrong.

http://www.allbrucelee.com/biography.htm

Thanks.

platinum_angel · 10-01-2003, 09:07 PM

doesn't matter hes dead

JaredExtreme · 10-01-2003, 09:23 PM

Plantium Angel is correct.

BTW I go to same college as h did...... the difference between me and him is I actually GO to competitions !! WOKKA WOKKA WOKKA

Great Sage · 10-01-2003, 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by Nick
He was Chinese.

He was an American born in San Francisco... Just because the guy had Chinese ancestry doesn't mean he was Chinese. I have lots of Asian friends who would get offended if I addressed them as Chinese simply because their parents are from China. American doesn't mean "White." When you get that stereotype out of your head, you'll go somewhere.

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MuayThaiFighter Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vancouver,BC,Canada Posts: 489	Would Bruce Lee win UFC fights had he been still alive and willing to compete? Everyone knows Bruce Lee as a skinny oriental guy with amazing martial arts experience. He is known both as martial artist and actor. His movements and speed shown on movies was shocking to all those who saw him in action.Some people believe the way he could fight as a martial artist in movies is the way he could fight as a martial artist in real life. However no one really knows for sure since Bruce Lee was not interested in competition and put down many martial artists and telling them what he thought they lacked. If Bruce Lee was alive, and if he were to agree to fight in UFC, do you think he would win ? I definitely think Bruce Lee despite how good people knew him at being a martial artist would still lose in something like UFC. As a martial artist he was more of a guy with outstanding technique and power but lacked the true fighting ability and mind set. What do you guys think?

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10-01-2003, 08:23 AM	#2 (permalink)
Kurt Novice Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: England Posts: 35	Well he would be like 64 years old, I don't think he would be in any physical condition to keep up with the fighters of UFC. But if he were to be in he's "prime" it would be a nice thought to see him win, but, I've never seen him put to the test, end of the day he was known more for he's acting, not beating the shit out of people. Anyway, got to go, I'm of to see 50 cent

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jules Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 474	Well Helio and Carlos were "skinny guys" and they were hard as nails. Who knows? If it was in his weight class i would say he would be one of the top ones.

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Sean Dempsey Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 274	Bruce Lee is quoted admitted that he would NEVER get into a ring with Muhammed Ali, for fear that Ali would take his head off. he said something like "Get into a ring with a guy 100lbs heavier than me and just as fast as I am? never happen". Even the Dragon himself admits he'd most assuradly face defeat against that mere boxer. The REAL question is could a present day Lee take on a present day Ali. Now THATS a fight. They could fight over the jello pudding packs in the resthome. __________________ ...making $70,000 a year in pure PROFIT like I am right now from my full time career in Information Technology as a Programmer... - GuardMaster Make up to 7 dollars a year PROFIT like I do right now as a Submission Grappling Joint Relocator! - Sean Dempsey

10-01-2003, 06:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
IPON Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 1,563	I don't think there is a question that Bruce was involved in a lot of street fight or had a fighters spirit. I definately think that Bruce would loose (championship) even in his prime. Size is definatly a factor UFC remember the Kempo guy "giant killer" could you imagine 120lb bruce against near 7ft 600+ lb jello fat ball with 6 boobs, that was packaged as humanoid sumo......whoa. Also I don't think Bruce acknowleged sport combat as true combat and basically felt it was not worth his time. He did demonstrations of wingchun power in 1 inch punch but that was it. On a technical note I also think he was extremely defensless if a grappler could close the gap, I know judo gene labelle but him on his butt many times while "sparring" The ground game means pain I put this in another post (not verbatim) when bruce was asked about fighting Muhamd Ali, he said: "if I fight him in the ring with his rules he (ali) will beat me......but if we fight by my rules [no rule] I will beat him badly" __________________ A person who is said to be proficient in the arts is like a fool. Because of his foolishness in concerning himself with just one thing, he thinks of nothing else and thus becomes proficient. - Hagarkure

10-01-2003, 08:11 PM	#11 (permalink)
Nick Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 194	... He was Chinese. And yes, I think he could have done fairly well in the UFC. Invincible, no, but he studied grappling as well and I think he could have held his own well enough to punch back, if tackled. But striking was definitely his strong point. Later...

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JaredExtreme Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,115	Actually Nick you are wrong. http://www.allbrucelee.com/biography.htm Thanks. __________________ "I don't fight in the street, there's no mats out there." - JaredExtreme

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platinum_angel Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: heaven and hell Posts: 714	doesn't matter hes dead __________________ In order to experience true peace you must first overcome true hardship. remember the wind, for it flows through all of us. I like smeg-ma chips. for all those who i offend............i don't give a shit

10-01-2003, 09:23 PM	#14 (permalink)
JaredExtreme Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,115	Plantium Angel is correct. BTW I go to same college as h did...... the difference between me and him is I actually GO to competitions !! WOKKA WOKKA WOKKA __________________ "I don't fight in the street, there's no mats out there." - JaredExtreme

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