Telescoping baton, legal to carry?

Red Rooster · 10-03-2003, 01:02 PM

After two years of kenjitsu and a year of kali I feel proficient with a knife. If confronted with a knife I'm afraid I could fataly wound someone, with a baton I could just smash their hand to disarm them. What would you guys prefer in this situation.
Rooster

Szczepankiewicz · 10-03-2003, 01:06 PM

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with a baton I could just smash their hand to disarm them.

And then take them in the guard and put them in a juji gatame until they tap?

Nutz · 10-03-2003, 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by Red Rooster
After two years of kenjitsu and a year of kali I feel proficient with a knife. If confronted with a knife I'm afraid I could fataly wound someone, with a baton I could just smash their hand to disarm them. What would you guys prefer in this situation.
Rooster

Like my old instructor used to say, "run, fly, or find an equalizer."

You do the math.

alwaysmixwell · 02-16-2004, 10:47 AM

well i dont know where all its legal at but i dont think that its legal in california. wouldnt hurt to buy on if its legal...

cakegirl · 02-16-2004, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by alwaysmixwell

well i dont know where all its legal at but i dont think that its legal in california. wouldnt hurt to buy on if its legal...

Unless you come up against someone who has 3 years of kali, or 4, or 27, and they disarm you, and you end up having your own weapon used against you.

Cakegirl

alwaysmixwell · 02-16-2004, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cakegirl

Unless you come up against someone who has 3 years of kali, or 4, or 27, and they disarm you, and you end up having your own weapon used against you.

Cakegirl

and what are the chances of that happening ??

cakegirl · 02-16-2004, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by alwaysmixwell

and what are the chances of that happening ??

The chances of coming up against someone who has trained in the same style as you for longer than you have, not very likely. The chances of someone who has trained in martial arts before - pretty likely - numbers are increasing!

Cakegirl

Nick · 02-16-2004, 07:50 PM

The chances of meeting someone who's trained at a McDojo are increasing, you mean.

Later...

IPON · 02-16-2004, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Rooster

After two years of kenjitsu and a year of kali I feel proficient with a knife. If confronted with a knife I'm afraid I could fataly wound someone, with a baton I could just smash their hand to disarm them. What would you guys prefer in this situation.
Rooster

Well in NY both the baton and knife are illegal to carry. When I work at night I usually carry both but always the baton. I guess the question is not what we think but what are your experiences where you live. Are you in constant threat of crime where ppl are pulling knives, is it pure SD or fighting?

Red Rooster · 02-16-2004, 08:04 PM

Someone with 27 years of MA experience probably isn't gonna rob me at knife point.

Red Rooster · 02-16-2004, 08:18 PM

I'm not sure how you guys capture the quotes at the beginng of your posts, maybe someone can enlighten me.

IPON, I was a bouncer for a long time, and I hung out at some pretty crazy punk rock bars.

IPON · 02-16-2004, 08:33 PM

RR hit reply in the bottom right corner of the post you want to quote.

If it is bouncer work, like I said I take the baton and knife. The baton I pull out quick if needed and the knife as the last resort

gracilva · 02-17-2004, 07:12 PM

the baton is illegal to carry in australia, unless you are a licenced security guard

akja · 02-17-2004, 07:46 PM

My vendors won't ship illegal weapons to Ca. and they do ship me the telescopic batons. Which makes me beleive that they are legal, probably depending on the fashion that we carry or display them.

A cop did take one from my student saying that it was illegal. But he did not arrest or charge him which makes me think that the cop kept it for himself.

BigBunnyRabbit · 02-17-2004, 08:12 PM

I guess I'm old fashioned but in this situation I would prefer my 1911 .45 acp DeathRay.

But to answer your question, in the state of Tennessee you CAN carry a baton IF you have completed the state required training class which is only four hours long and also covers chemical sprays (OC/CS, Pepper spray, mace).

It is a shame that some states wouldn't "allow" people to properly defend themselves against deadly attackers. Politicians just don't realize that criminals are criminals! If they are willing to rob you breaking another law by having an illeagal weapon isn't going to cross their minds.

I agree with HandtoHand, if you can't whip someones ass with a weapon what makes you think you can whip him unarmed?

10-03-2003, 01:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
Red Rooster Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Seattle, Wa Posts: 15 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Telescoping baton, legal to carry? After two years of kenjitsu and a year of kali I feel proficient with a knife. If confronted with a knife I'm afraid I could fataly wound someone, with a baton I could just smash their hand to disarm them. What would you guys prefer in this situation. Rooster

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alwaysmixwell Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 71 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	well i dont know where all its legal at but i dont think that its legal in california. wouldnt hurt to buy on if its legal... __________________ Always Mixwell

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Nick Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 194 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	... The chances of meeting someone who's trained at a McDojo are increasing, you mean. Later...

02-16-2004, 08:33 PM	#12 (permalink)
IPON Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 1,568 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	RR hit reply in the bottom right corner of the post you want to quote. If it is bouncer work, like I said I take the baton and knife. The baton I pull out quick if needed and the knife as the last resort __________________ A person who is said to be proficient in the arts is like a fool. Because of his foolishness in concerning himself with just one thing, he thinks of nothing else and thus becomes proficient. - Hagarkure

02-17-2004, 07:12 PM	#13 (permalink)
gracilva Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 293 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	the baton is illegal to carry in australia, unless you are a licenced security guard __________________ peace.....for now

02-16-2004, 08:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
Red Rooster Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Seattle, Wa Posts: 15 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Someone with 27 years of MA experience probably isn't gonna rob me at knife point.

02-16-2004, 08:18 PM	#11 (permalink)
Red Rooster Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Seattle, Wa Posts: 15 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm not sure how you guys capture the quotes at the beginng of your posts, maybe someone can enlighten me. IPON, I was a bouncer for a long time, and I hung out at some pretty crazy punk rock bars.

02-17-2004, 07:46 PM	#14 (permalink)
akja Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Tracy, Ca. Posts: 415 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	California legal? My vendors won't ship illegal weapons to Ca. and they do ship me the telescopic batons. Which makes me beleive that they are legal, probably depending on the fashion that we carry or display them. A cop did take one from my student saying that it was illegal. But he did not arrest or charge him which makes me think that the cop kept it for himself. __________________ Academy of Kempo Ju Jitsu & Association http://www.scientific-streetfighting.com/ "If people say Jeet Kune Do is different from "this" or from "that," then let the name of Jeet Kune Do be wiped out, for that is what it is, just a name. Please don't fuss over it." -----Great SiGung Bruce Lee-----

02-17-2004, 08:12 PM	#15 (permalink)
BigBunnyRabbit Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 6 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I guess I'm old fashioned but in this situation I would prefer my 1911 .45 acp DeathRay. But to answer your question, in the state of Tennessee you CAN carry a baton IF you have completed the state required training class which is only four hours long and also covers chemical sprays (OC/CS, Pepper spray, mace). It is a shame that some states wouldn't "allow" people to properly defend themselves against deadly attackers. Politicians just don't realize that criminals are criminals! If they are willing to rob you breaking another law by having an illeagal weapon isn't going to cross their minds. I agree with HandtoHand, if you can't whip someones ass with a weapon what makes you think you can whip him unarmed?

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