Spinning hookin heel/Dragon whips tail

[Uchiha_Anbu]

I "learned" the lead hooking heel, rear hooking heal, spin hooking heel from watching Bruce Lee's movies (as well as reading a few books by his subordinates). I would like to know which style this technique originated from because im preaty sure im not doing it correct. Dont get me wrong I generate a quick whip cracking effect from it that creates a popping snap(ala baggy pants). I've studied TKD for four years and San-Jitsu-Ryu( a judo composite style with many maiming & breaking techniques, along with more striking that normal judo) for one and a half years. Let me explain how I execute my self taught kick so some nice person can critique me(please). I set up the kick like a TKD style spin side kick. With the exeption that I pull my heel back towards my leg when i extend it, creating the whiping effect. I can fire this kick at all levels and train it on the kicking bag often. I would apreciate a link or a good description of how this move should be executed properly. Also I recently made a variation on the move adding a extra 180 degree turn. In a strong leg forward stance, I do a kinda mock rear roundhouse for momentum, then I set that foot down in lead. Following this and building momentum by bringing my hips around I fire the thing off. Kinda like the way Jet Lee was doing his spin side-kicks in the Fists of Fury remake movie.

[Nick]

I wouldn't put too much energy into a hook kick. Although it has a potential to knock out your opponent, it's a risky move.

But, how could you have done TKD for four years and not be sure of how to do a hook kick? You step up like a side kick, flex your foot like a round kick, then shoot it out and "hook" it back. That's it. For a spinning one, you merely turn feet back and fire it out like any other spinning kick.

Later...

[Tom Yum]

I second that. How could you take TKD and not even know a hook kick? That's one of the elementary kicks you learn after the third month.

Is there something wrong with taking a class to learn instead of learning from old kung fu movies?

[Uchiha_Anbu]

I guess the school I went to was a "McDojo". I was USTA style TKD under Bobby Chavers. I was a 1st degree Black when before I left.. Ha, well I guess I shoulda asked for a hot apple pie with my diploma. Anyways the spin side kick seems like the prerequiste for the spinning hooking heel. I think from what you said Nick, that I wassent flexing my foot like a round. I'm supposed to flex it inward(like im pointing with my toes)? That felt like it added somthing to it. Ya well USTA TKD was preaty weak. They arent even in buisness anymore. You cant find anything about them online. At least not in my part of the country. San Jitsu Ryu is great though. Lookin into it. It was created by Frank Sanchez. Its a devestating form, to be sure. Im just to poor, to attend at this time. Anyways thanks for the info.

[Nick]

A black belt who doesn't know a hook kick?... go do Muay Thai or something.

Anyway, yeah, you must "point" with your toes or you'll hurt the back of you leg.

Later...

[MrPoopy]