The Ultimate in Martial Arts

Great Sage · 11-03-2003, 12:23 PM

Have you noticed that ever since Bruce Lee, each time someone learns a martial art it becomes THEIR style? It’s really quite funny becuase now you have so many styles based on primary arts; Stephen Hayes Ninjitsu, Joe Lewis Karate, Gracie Jiu Jitsu, Machado Jiu Jitsu, Jim Brown Karate, Benny “the Jet” Ukidon Karate, Chuck Norris Karate, the list goes on, and on...

Everyone seems to think that just because they personalized, or tweaked an element of a martial art to their preference, that they’ve created a new brand of martial art. It’s like “no duh”, martial arts are always going to reflect individualism.

The most infamous case ofcourse is Gracie Jiu Jitsu. Now, according to many BJJ sources, it was Maeda who surmised that taking someone to the ground would benefit a grappler. In fact, Maedo was not a traditional Jiu Jitsu man. He was well travelled and added many techniques in his repetoire including boxing, judo, catch wrestling, etc... In Renzo Gracie’s book, it is written that Maeda taught an unorthodox grappling system using submission holds not found in judo or jiu jitsu. He actually came up with the ground fighting principles and basic techniques found in Gracie Jiu Jitsu. What Helio did was personalize it for himself, which is nothing new these days. So maybe it should have been called Maeda Jiu Jitsu?

Whatever the case, it’s all based on ego... Yes, everyone wants to be the founder, the source, the creator. That’s how you can effectively market yourself, by promoting your own brand of martial arts... “Look here folks, my Style is the ultimate martial art, I’ve won various NHB events... It’s called Robert Shanks Jiu Jitsu, again it’s Shanks Jiu Jitsu..”

platinum_angel · 11-03-2003, 02:35 PM

whats your point

Szczepankiewicz · 11-03-2003, 03:07 PM

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11-03-2003, 12:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
Great Sage Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Nowhere, USA... Posts: 510 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Too Many Styles... Have you noticed that ever since Bruce Lee, each time someone learns a martial art it becomes THEIR style? It’s really quite funny becuase now you have so many styles based on primary arts; Stephen Hayes Ninjitsu, Joe Lewis Karate, Gracie Jiu Jitsu, Machado Jiu Jitsu, Jim Brown Karate, Benny “the Jet” Ukidon Karate, Chuck Norris Karate, the list goes on, and on... Everyone seems to think that just because they personalized, or tweaked an element of a martial art to their preference, that they’ve created a new brand of martial art. It’s like “no duh”, martial arts are always going to reflect individualism. The most infamous case ofcourse is Gracie Jiu Jitsu. Now, according to many BJJ sources, it was Maeda who surmised that taking someone to the ground would benefit a grappler. In fact, Maedo was not a traditional Jiu Jitsu man. He was well travelled and added many techniques in his repetoire including boxing, judo, catch wrestling, etc... In Renzo Gracie’s book, it is written that Maeda taught an unorthodox grappling system using submission holds not found in judo or jiu jitsu. He actually came up with the ground fighting principles and basic techniques found in Gracie Jiu Jitsu. What Helio did was personalize it for himself, which is nothing new these days. So maybe it should have been called Maeda Jiu Jitsu? Whatever the case, it’s all based on ego... Yes, everyone wants to be the founder, the source, the creator. That’s how you can effectively market yourself, by promoting your own brand of martial arts... “Look here folks, my Style is the ultimate martial art, I’ve won various NHB events... It’s called Robert Shanks Jiu Jitsu, again it’s Shanks Jiu Jitsu..” __________________ The sage experiences without abstraction, And accomplishes without action; He accepts the ebb and flow of things, Nurtures them, but does not own them, And lives, but does not dwell.

11-03-2003, 02:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
platinum_angel Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: heaven and hell Posts: 714 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	whats your point __________________ In order to experience true peace you must first overcome true hardship. remember the wind, for it flows through all of us. I like smeg-ma chips. for all those who i offend............i don't give a shit

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11-03-2003, 03:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
Szczepankiewicz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Meridian, ID, USA Posts: 4,109 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thread Closed pending review.

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