The Ultimate in Martial Arts

Bloody Face · 01-16-2005, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by sojobow

The usual lineup:
If my attitude seems cloaked in fascism, it's only because we attack those who aren't here to defend themselves. I do the same for you and don't know you from Adam or Eve.

That's great, just do not think that I was attempting to name you as that, I was refering to those whom have attacked your views without insight...I have seen your name on several websites and seen it also attacked verulently, that's all. I'm just trying to be respectful.

sojobow · 01-16-2005, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloody Face

That's great, just do not think that I was attempting to name you as that, I was refering to those whom have attacked your views without insight...I have seen your name on several websites and seen it also attacked verulently, that's all. I'm just trying to be respectful.

My mistake. Actually, I look forward to your post. Never gave the last one a negative thought. Glad I'm not virulently attacked as such on this forum. Kind of use to it by now. Interesting mind and above-average conversation. Thanx.

Bloody Face · 01-17-2005, 04:59 AM

Hey Sojobow I was wondering if there are any gound tactics to speak of in Dux Ryu.

sojobow · 01-18-2005, 05:15 AM

Haven't a clue as to what a "gound tactic" consist of.

Bloody Face · 01-18-2005, 11:53 AM

Well, say for instance dealing with a fighter whom may have a background in ground fighting/grappling ect. Does the system include dimensions which deal with defensive or offensive tactics when on the ground?

sojobow · 01-18-2005, 05:47 PM

Sure. Very common.

Bloody Face · 03-20-2005, 02:46 AM

I am wondering if there are any videos or manuals available from Dux Ryu? I would like to read or see them.

sojobow · 03-20-2005, 04:43 AM

No manuals are available at this time.

swisscom · 03-27-2005, 08:07 PM

Bajutsu (horsemanship)
Bo-ryaku (strategy)
Bojutsu (stick and staff fighting)
Chi-mon (geography)
Cho ho (espionage)
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Ten-mon (meteorology)
Yarijutsu (spear fighting)

..hmm well. This was posted above, well, quoted at least. Iunno, Ninjitsu is a dead art (to me), technology has surpassed it. Being a ninja is all about stealth assassination, nowadays, the only practical way to assassinate someone is by shooting them from a distance. I'm sure you could be all proficiant in crossbow or bow skills. But a sniperrifle would do much better. The time of the ninja has gone, because it's not really a compedative art? It's kill or be killed. There really isn't an in between.. as far as i know, which isnt a lot. Of the techniques listed above.. "Cho ho and Bo-ryaku" are probably the only relevent ones. Yeah i know im being a jackass. But yeah... the old ways of assassination have eroded.

Bloody Face · 03-27-2005, 08:19 PM

I am wondering why noone has entered a MMA tournament with a back ground of Ninjitsu/BJJ? It sounds like a very good match to me...taking into account Steve Jennum and others whom were trained by Robert Bussey.

It seems that Bussey's guys are the only one's willing to enter the MMA.

chalambok · 03-28-2005, 07:58 PM

Wow, there are truly some hilarious postings in this thread. Considering that there are far more bullshitters in the martial arts community than actual practitioners, that seems about right.

I have my own opinions about the people purporting to do various ninjakai around the world today. Just a couple of salient (or not) things I have noted over the years. Doctor Hatsumi once was famously quoted as saying: "There is only 1 Ninja, and it is I." He also said: "I may be the toughest man in the world, but every night my wife makes me walk the dogs and take out the trash." As far as combat effectiveness goes, I was pleasantly surprised to find how similar my footwork learned while training with Stephen K Hayes was to the footwork I learned doing Krabi-Krabong at the Buddhai Swan. I guess my main point would be, if you feel you are getting something out of it, whatever training you are doing is good. Just think where you would be in life if you had no martial arts at all?

NinjAssassin · 03-29-2005, 12:45 AM

Maybe this will clear up any confusion about ninjas:

http://tanjunryu.tripod.com

Bloody Face · 03-30-2005, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chalambok

Wow, there are truly some hilarious postings in this thread. Considering that there are far more bullshitters in the martial arts community than actual practitioners, that seems about right.

I have my own opinions about the people purporting to do various ninjakai around the world today. Just a couple of salient (or not) things I have noted over the years. Doctor Hatsumi once was famously quoted as saying: "There is only 1 Ninja, and it is I." He also said: "I may be the toughest man in the world, but every night my wife makes me walk the dogs and take out the trash." As far as combat effectiveness goes, I was pleasantly surprised to find how similar my footwork learned while training with Stephen K Hayes was to the footwork I learned doing Krabi-Krabong at the Buddhai Swan. I guess my main point would be, if you feel you are getting something out of it, whatever training you are doing is good. Just think where you would be in life if you had no martial arts at all?

By any chance were you refering to my post? I was erely attempting to broach why it is that no self proclaimed Ninjutsu fighters enter into MMA with the exception being Robert Bussey's guys...for what that's worth.

chalambok · 03-30-2005, 11:19 PM

No, Bloody Face, I was not referring specifically to you. I also wonder why no other Ninja than Bussey's people have ever fought. But then there are many styles which have such a huge (or slow-to-learn) curricula that very few students attain combat usefulness before they are too old for recreational fighting. That is why Shoot Boxing and Shoot Wrestling and muay Thai are huge in Japan, as well as K1 and UFC. I don't know if enrollment in the traditional arts has dropped off or not, but anyone who looks around the least bit can see where all the fighters come from, grappling, jujutsu and kickboxing or muay Thai gyms.

KotoRyu · 03-31-2005, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by chalambok

That is why Shoot Boxing and Shoot Wrestling and muay Thai are huge in Japan, as well as K1 and UFC. I don't know if enrollment in the traditional arts has dropped off or not, but anyone who looks around the least bit can see where all the fighters come from, grappling, jujutsu and kickboxing or muay Thai gyms.

There's still plenty of people that don't plan on fighting professional or even as amateurs that take other arts, I'm sure it hasn't dropped off too dramatically.

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01-17-2005, 04:59 AM	#198 (permalink)
Bloody Face Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 21 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey Sojobow I was wondering if there are any gound tactics to speak of in Dux Ryu.

01-18-2005, 05:15 AM	#199 (permalink)
sojobow Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 153 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Haven't a clue as to what a "gound tactic" consist of.

01-18-2005, 11:53 AM	#200 (permalink)
Bloody Face Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 21 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well, say for instance dealing with a fighter whom may have a background in ground fighting/grappling ect. Does the system include dimensions which deal with defensive or offensive tactics when on the ground?

01-18-2005, 05:47 PM	#201 (permalink)
sojobow Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 153 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sure. Very common.

03-20-2005, 02:46 AM	#202 (permalink)
Bloody Face Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 21 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I am wondering if there are any videos or manuals available from Dux Ryu? I would like to read or see them.

03-20-2005, 04:43 AM	#203 (permalink)
sojobow Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 153 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	No manuals are available at this time.

03-27-2005, 08:19 PM	#205 (permalink)
Bloody Face Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 21 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I am wondering why noone has entered a MMA tournament with a back ground of Ninjitsu/BJJ? It sounds like a very good match to me...taking into account Steve Jennum and others whom were trained by Robert Bussey. It seems that Bussey's guys are the only one's willing to enter the MMA.

03-28-2005, 07:58 PM	#206 (permalink)
chalambok Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oregon City, Oregon USA Posts: 735 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Wow, there are truly some hilarious postings in this thread. Considering that there are far more bullshitters in the martial arts community than actual practitioners, that seems about right. I have my own opinions about the people purporting to do various ninjakai around the world today. Just a couple of salient (or not) things I have noted over the years. Doctor Hatsumi once was famously quoted as saying: "There is only 1 Ninja, and it is I." He also said: "I may be the toughest man in the world, but every night my wife makes me walk the dogs and take out the trash." As far as combat effectiveness goes, I was pleasantly surprised to find how similar my footwork learned while training with Stephen K Hayes was to the footwork I learned doing Krabi-Krabong at the Buddhai Swan. I guess my main point would be, if you feel you are getting something out of it, whatever training you are doing is good. Just think where you would be in life if you had no martial arts at all?

03-30-2005, 11:19 PM	#209 (permalink)
chalambok Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oregon City, Oregon USA Posts: 735 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	No, Bloody Face, I was not referring specifically to you. I also wonder why no other Ninja than Bussey's people have ever fought. But then there are many styles which have such a huge (or slow-to-learn) curricula that very few students attain combat usefulness before they are too old for recreational fighting. That is why Shoot Boxing and Shoot Wrestling and muay Thai are huge in Japan, as well as K1 and UFC. I don't know if enrollment in the traditional arts has dropped off or not, but anyone who looks around the least bit can see where all the fighters come from, grappling, jujutsu and kickboxing or muay Thai gyms.

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