Nudity - Page 2

yentao · 07-05-2004, 02:16 AM

the discussion about the matter in japan is taboo they don't discuss it because it was a humiliation liek the greeks before. But i'm not saying all of them. After all you guys started the thread.

**gregimotis** · 07-05-2004, 11:48 AM

local photagrapher had his work displayed at a coffee house here (Santa Fe has a lot of artists). The photographs were 90% nude women and most of them were pretty tasteful (i.e. beauty of form/not overtly sexual), but some of them lingered well into soft porn - one showing a woman's bent over backside as she peeled off her thong.
Anyway, customers complained and the display was taken down. The artist got a write up in the paper where he complained that he just wanted to show the beauty of the human form etc., and it just goes to show how prudish everybody is that we can't look at naked people without sexualizing them yada yada. The irony of course, is that some of his pictures were clearly sexual, and his claim that they were not was dishonest.

Now to bring this little story around to the thread - On the surface this thread is about why people can't appreciate the human form without getting uptight and why someone always wants to ban nudity.

What's happened from the first post on, however, is not a discussion of nudity, but rather a discussion of Nude Hot Chicks (hereafter referred to as NHC). We agree that we don't want to appreciate the beauty of fat or old women, and nobody so much as mentions nude guys (except one reference to Greece, but that wasn't a vote for nude guys either).

So - I put to the comittee that it is exactly as Oso stated earlier. The people that 'don't like nudity' are actually not opposed to tasteful nudity (probably), they are opposed to porn or perhaps public sexuality (the dirty little thoughts in your heads). Further, they are not fooled by the claim by that artist that his pictures weren't sexual (they clearly were) - they also aren't fooled by conversations like this one which are sort of about 'the human form' but really are about NHC.

My point is pretty obvious by now - There are plenty of prudes who don't like anything remotely sexual - but there are also plenty of guys trying to convince everybody that they are about 'beauty' not nudie pics... they also read playboy for the articles.

Also, remember when posting which forum we are on and keep it respectful of our female members

jubaji · 07-05-2004, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yentao

the discussion about the matter in japan is taboo they don't discuss it because it was a humiliation liek the greeks before.

????????????????

osopardo · 07-05-2004, 02:59 PM

All right, boys, you asked for this!

In the interest of art education I present to you....

Robert Mapplethorpe! enjoy!

osopardo · 07-05-2004, 03:00 PM

Robert Mapplethorpe

osopardo · 07-05-2004, 03:02 PM

Mapplethorpe

osopardo · 07-05-2004, 03:03 PM

Rbt. Mapplethorpe

osopardo · 07-05-2004, 03:04 PM

Big Bobby M.

osopardo · 07-05-2004, 03:05 PM

Bobby Baby

osopardo · 07-05-2004, 03:08 PM

Now, compare that to the works of photographer Bob Stickel...

osopardo · 07-05-2004, 03:09 PM

Bob Stickel...

osopardo · 07-05-2004, 03:10 PM

Bob Stickel again...

osopardo · 07-05-2004, 03:13 PM

And yes, these images have all been accepted as ART.

Tom Yum · 07-05-2004, 05:07 PM

OSO got into the moonshine again for the 4th.....still doesn't explain why he wrote beat poetry on the wall of the men's restroom in lipstick at Chevron station #37 and left a signature under the name "Blackula"

people think we sanitary engineers (aka toilet technicians) have it easy

...

What was more phunny was watching sherwinc pop in at 1:30am wearing sunglasses, slicked hair, leather jacket and lime green tights. His only purchase.....prophilactics, a screw driver and chocolate syrup. When I asked him if that would be all, he answered "Its never enough"

osopardo · 07-05-2004, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Yum

.....still doesn't explain why he wrote beat poetry on the wall of the men's restroom in lipstick at Chevron station #37...

Chevron

......Station 37

inmyChevy57
waiting for him in the back seat
of a Hot n' Humid (Oso Oh so tumescent
under the flicker of lights fluorescent)

sultry summer sat
...............urday nite.

Hey, there baby, yuh feel alright?
Have a smoke, take a swig,
What's your name? Boy, you're big!

Never met a guy like you,
Never thought, never knew...
Boys like us, we've got it made...
Would you like a little "trade"?

as ever,

Blackula

07-05-2004, 02:16 AM	#16 (permalink)
yentao Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 309 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	the discussion about the matter in japan is taboo they don't discuss it because it was a humiliation liek the greeks before. But i'm not saying all of them. After all you guys started the thread. __________________ According to Grapplers 90% of fights end in the ground. According to Strikers 100% of fights begin standing.

07-05-2004, 11:48 AM	#17 (permalink)
gregimotis Premiere Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Still residing in the Premiere members booth Posts: 1,997 Groans: 4 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	local photagrapher had his work displayed at a coffee house here (Santa Fe has a lot of artists). The photographs were 90% nude women and most of them were pretty tasteful (i.e. beauty of form/not overtly sexual), but some of them lingered well into soft porn - one showing a woman's bent over backside as she peeled off her thong. Anyway, customers complained and the display was taken down. The artist got a write up in the paper where he complained that he just wanted to show the beauty of the human form etc., and it just goes to show how prudish everybody is that we can't look at naked people without sexualizing them yada yada. The irony of course, is that some of his pictures were clearly sexual, and his claim that they were not was dishonest. Now to bring this little story around to the thread - On the surface this thread is about why people can't appreciate the human form without getting uptight and why someone always wants to ban nudity. What's happened from the first post on, however, is not a discussion of nudity, but rather a discussion of Nude Hot Chicks (hereafter referred to as NHC). We agree that we don't want to appreciate the beauty of fat or old women, and nobody so much as mentions nude guys (except one reference to Greece, but that wasn't a vote for nude guys either). So - I put to the comittee that it is exactly as Oso stated earlier. The people that 'don't like nudity' are actually not opposed to tasteful nudity (probably), they are opposed to porn or perhaps public sexuality (the dirty little thoughts in your heads). Further, they are not fooled by the claim by that artist that his pictures weren't sexual (they clearly were) - they also aren't fooled by conversations like this one which are sort of about 'the human form' but really are about NHC. My point is pretty obvious by now - There are plenty of prudes who don't like anything remotely sexual - but there are also plenty of guys trying to convince everybody that they are about 'beauty' not nudie pics... they also read playboy for the articles. Also, remember when posting which forum we are on and keep it respectful of our female members __________________ . . I am Tired. Tired. Tired.

07-05-2004, 02:59 PM	#19 (permalink)
osopardo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hurricane Alley Posts: 170,033 Posts: 1,920 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	All right, boys, you asked for this! In the interest of art education I present to you.... Robert Mapplethorpe! enjoy! Attached Images __________________ Le Bear Extraordinaire! *Mike Brewer's 2008 Athleticon Challenge!!!* Pushups Completed: 5 1/2 Situps Completed: Does using my hands count?

07-05-2004, 03:00 PM	#20 (permalink)
osopardo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hurricane Alley Posts: 170,033 Posts: 1,920 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Robert Mapplethorpe Attached Images __________________ Le Bear Extraordinaire! *Mike Brewer's 2008 Athleticon Challenge!!!* Pushups Completed: 5 1/2 Situps Completed: Does using my hands count?

07-05-2004, 03:02 PM	#21 (permalink)
osopardo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hurricane Alley Posts: 170,033 Posts: 1,920 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mapplethorpe Attached Images __________________ Le Bear Extraordinaire! *Mike Brewer's 2008 Athleticon Challenge!!!* Pushups Completed: 5 1/2 Situps Completed: Does using my hands count?

07-05-2004, 03:03 PM	#22 (permalink)
osopardo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hurricane Alley Posts: 170,033 Posts: 1,920 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Rbt. Mapplethorpe Attached Images __________________ Le Bear Extraordinaire! *Mike Brewer's 2008 Athleticon Challenge!!!* Pushups Completed: 5 1/2 Situps Completed: Does using my hands count?

07-05-2004, 03:04 PM	#23 (permalink)
osopardo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hurricane Alley Posts: 170,033 Posts: 1,920 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Big Bobby M. Attached Images __________________ Le Bear Extraordinaire! *Mike Brewer's 2008 Athleticon Challenge!!!* Pushups Completed: 5 1/2 Situps Completed: Does using my hands count?

07-05-2004, 03:05 PM	#24 (permalink)
osopardo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hurricane Alley Posts: 170,033 Posts: 1,920 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bobby Baby Attached Images __________________ Le Bear Extraordinaire! *Mike Brewer's 2008 Athleticon Challenge!!!* Pushups Completed: 5 1/2 Situps Completed: Does using my hands count?

07-05-2004, 03:08 PM	#25 (permalink)
osopardo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hurricane Alley Posts: 170,033 Posts: 1,920 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Now, compare that to the works of photographer Bob Stickel... Attached Images __________________ Le Bear Extraordinaire! *Mike Brewer's 2008 Athleticon Challenge!!!* Pushups Completed: 5 1/2 Situps Completed: Does using my hands count?

07-05-2004, 03:09 PM	#26 (permalink)
osopardo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hurricane Alley Posts: 170,033 Posts: 1,920 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bob Stickel... Attached Images __________________ Le Bear Extraordinaire! *Mike Brewer's 2008 Athleticon Challenge!!!* Pushups Completed: 5 1/2 Situps Completed: Does using my hands count?

07-05-2004, 03:10 PM	#27 (permalink)
osopardo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hurricane Alley Posts: 170,033 Posts: 1,920 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bob Stickel again... Attached Images __________________ Le Bear Extraordinaire! *Mike Brewer's 2008 Athleticon Challenge!!!* Pushups Completed: 5 1/2 Situps Completed: Does using my hands count?

07-05-2004, 03:13 PM	#28 (permalink)
osopardo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hurricane Alley Posts: 170,033 Posts: 1,920 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	And yes, these images have all been accepted as ART. __________________ Le Bear Extraordinaire! *Mike Brewer's 2008 Athleticon Challenge!!!* Pushups Completed: 5 1/2 Situps Completed: Does using my hands count?

07-05-2004, 05:07 PM	#29 (permalink)
Tom Yum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here and there. Posts: 11,304 Groans: 1 Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts	OSO got into the moonshine again for the 4th.....still doesn't explain why he wrote beat poetry on the wall of the men's restroom in lipstick at Chevron station #37 and left a signature under the name "Blackula" people think we sanitary engineers (aka toilet technicians) have it easy ... What was more phunny was watching sherwinc pop in at 1:30am wearing sunglasses, slicked hair, leather jacket and lime green tights. His only purchase.....prophilactics, a screw driver and chocolate syrup. When I asked him if that would be all, he answered "Its never enough" __________________ Love it, leave it or fix it.

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