stealth

I am currently 2nd degree black belt with 9yrs of experience in a mixed art and I have been teaching for my school for many years, and my problems is I've been teaching for the school for a very long time even before i was a black belt and I still pay tuition. Now what i want to know is it comman practice for a Sensei in a school to be paying tuition? this has been bothering me for a very long time and i think if you are helping the school make money and taking your time to teach I think 2 things 1 we should get paid or 2 attend for free and only pay your testing fees. Am I wrong to feel this ?

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Memnoch1207

If you are teaching at the school, you should be getting paid for it.
If you are also being taught, either privately or in an advanced class, you should be paying for it.

Or you teach for free in exchange to free lessons.

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eXcessiveForce

It really depends.

In some schools teaching is a privledge
In other schools its a chore.

For instance a school that have 100 junior instructors and they assist in teaching generally will not be paid.


As I always told my instructors who were interested in teaching for a living. When working for someone else you don't get paid to teach, you get paid to recruit.
If you want to make money open your own schools or learn how to make sales.

I taught for free for a long time when I was younger, I got paid for getting new signups. The problem came later when the instructor stopped teaching me and stopped showing up to teach and expected me to teach.


On a side note, i have never charged my junior instructors for lessons, but they were expected to assist and even teach the occasional class.
We have a system of blackbelt instructors and black belt students. You pay if you are a student, you don't in you are an instructor. But by the time you have lots of instructors, you start charging new instructors too simply because you don't need them because you have others to do it.

If it is a problem I suggest you speak with your instructor about it. But if you have lots of other people teaching at your school don't expect to get paid especially if there are others who outrank you.

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Hikage

I'm still paying and (I'm only mentioning rank because you did and so you can see the contrast) I'm a fourth. I don't know how it is in your school, but I'm still learning, a lot. Also, I am taught how to teach. No one can just start effectively teaching well. You have to be told. There is an awful lot of strategy to it. When precisely do you start this idea, how do you want to show a student to do this? What do you do when someone disrespects you, etc. These are just some of the things that come to my mind.

If I were only teaching and not learning anything new, I'd be upset. If I were teaching and not being critiqued on my teaching, I'd be upset. If I were teaching and not improving, I'd be upset. Otherwise, consider it a priviledge that your sensei trusts you with HIS (and remember they are his) students. Bloom's taxonimy states that you will remember 90% of what you teach, compared to 10% of what you are told.

-Hikage

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BlackBeltDomain

In my schools, black belts don't pay, period. They have shown their loyality, earned their black belt, and deserve some respect in regards to "continuing paying". We have some junior instructors that are not paid, but any black belt "instructor" that is the head instructor for the class does get paid. Even substitute, instructors when a head instructor is unavailable will get paid.

I hope you come to a reasonable conclusion to your dilemma.

Bow,

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