escrima demon

If any of u could help make donations it would be helpful. I wonder why the hell is it taking so long to get those people out of there it seem that those people arnt that important to be help to bush, bush been saying that help is coming its coming and i havnt rly seen any help those people are dieing, its been almost a week. If u guys want to make a donnation go to yahoo and theyll have a page posted if u want to make a donation. Let me get sum opinion on what u guys think is bush doing his job and all the other politions cause to me it shouldent take a hole week to help those people when they pretty much knew what was going to happen the first day.

HtTKar

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/...ipt/index.html

This is the newest speach from President Bush. It should be read by as many people as possible. There is a number posted for victims of the hurricane. This is Bush's plan for assistance.

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BoarSpear

HMMM didnt we already get a similiar speech about the government fixing things, being better prepared, and doing better next time? About 4 years ago?

THIS is what they spent 4 years building the ability to do? Screw up worse than ever? Man im glad the same people wont be "helping" us 4 years from now

Its a good thing this disaster wasnt man made and didnt occur in several places at once...and didnt include toxic after effects...(dirty bombs or worse.. chemical/biological) or we would be really screwed now...

wake up people because the conductor's asleep at the switch.
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A Compilation of FEMA's Rejections of Qualified Help

FEMA refuses hundreds of personnel, dozens of vehicles - Chicago Tribune, 9/2/05
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,2011979.story

FEMA won't let Red Cross deliver food - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 9/3/05
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05246/565143.stm

FEMA fails to utilize Navy ship with 600-bed hospital on board - Chicago Tribune, 9/4/05
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...,4144825.story

FEMA turns away state-of-the-art mobile hospital from Univ. of North Carolina - CNN, 9/5/05
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/0...ck.redtape.ap/

FEMA won't accept Amtrak's help in evacuations - Financial Times, 9/5/05
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/84aa35cc-1da8-11da-b40b-00000e

FEMA turns back Wal-Mart supply trucks - New York Times, 9/6/05
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/05/na...l/05blame.html

FEMA prevents Coast Guard from delivering diesel fuel - New York Times, 9/6/05
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/05/na...l/05blame.html

FEMA blocks 500-boat citizen flotilla from delivering aid - News Sentinel, 9/8/05
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssen...l/12595873.htm

FEMA: "First Responders Urged Not To Respond" Unless Dispatched - FEMA's own website
http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=18470

Chertoff: Katrina scenario did not exist
September 5, 2005, CNN
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/09/03/katrina.chertoff/

Katrina makes many of planners’ fears a reality
September 9, 2005, MSNBC
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9274362/

Gone With the Water (Hurricane Predicted Again One Year Ago)
October, 2004, National Geographic
http://www3.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0410/feature5/

As the whirling maelstrom approached the coast, more than a million people evacuated to higher ground. Some 200,000 remained, however—the car-less, the homeless, the aged and infirm, and those die-hard New Orleanians who look for any excuse to throw a party. Thousands drowned in the murky brew that was soon contaminated by sewage and industrial waste. Thousands more who survived the flood later perished from dehydration and disease as they waited to be rescued. It took two months to pump the city dry, and by then the Big Easy was buried under a blanket of putrid sediment, a million people were homeless, and 50,000 were dead. It was the worst natural disaster in the history of the United States. When did this calamity happen? It hasn't—yet. But the doomsday scenario is not far-fetched. "It's not if it will happen," says University of New Orleans geologist Shea Penland. "It's when."

New Orleans is Sinking (Hurricane predicted on 9/11!!!)
September 11, 2001, Popular Mechanics (Note the date of this article)
http://www.popularmechanics.com/scie...h/1282151.html

Navy Pilots Who Rescued Victims Are Reprimanded
September 7, 2005, New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/07/na...al/07navy.html


http://www.wanttoknow.info/050911hur...katrinacoverup

BoarSpear

i agree 100% all the blame shouldnt go in any one spot...the entire govt structure from the cops on the street to the president are to blame for the poor response to a crisis...the people who were not prepared and chose to rely on the govt or others for help share in the blame. Certainly there were those too sick or old to evacuate, and some couldnt afford cars...but many also just ignored warnings and didnt prepare. people often think those in charge are full of it and ignore them...this time those in charge were right, at least about telling people to get out...but from that moment on it was a disaster in more ways than one.

velcroninja

"PEOPLE ARE F"N LAZY" and cant remember the day before because it doesn't apply to them now.

You are going to blame the government because they told us what was going to happenand warned us about the possibilities af the destruction that could take place...thats my point...people dont want to cowboy up and take responsibility into thier own hands. They did what they were suppose to do...warn us. they actually went above and beyond and spent one minute more,than I may have, to sacrifice thier own safety, and the trickle effect that a tragedy would have caused thier family, to go help someone who EVEN after being told, suggested, hinted...what ever to "for thier safety" leave until this is over, still want to hold up in a danger area, because of pig-headed ness, that we as "the good guys" have to waste ONE SECOND, let me say that again..."ONE SECOND" to help someone like that and have to see that people were found dead in thier wheelchairs, on the street because they had no other way, or one to help them...because we waste time with the same people who after all is said and done...are going to claim un-employment, for jobs they dident have and be a cause for those people, who tried to warn them, to raise our taxes because its the governments responsibility to help them...

sometimes i think I am better over here. I look at these Marines, Navy, Air Force & Army service men and women beat them selves up because they are fighting for, IN MY OPINION, the right decision for the better of my kids future, wanting to be home, with thier families, feeling useless to THIER own families, which then distracts them from the mission over here, which then weakens our representation and security over here...I witnessed a TCN (a local) talk a young PFC into telling HER, about his unit after she had a conversation with him about why he cannot be at home to help his family because his unit plays a main role over here...any more and he would have been giving her a tour of the Generals hooch...and someone that is perfectly capeable, is to stuborn to leave thier home...I dont understand sometimes. Please stay away from me if your like that so i do not waste any time wondering what it is that you are trying to say.

BoarSpear

HEHEHE good to see your okay and mean as ever...
i didnt wanna go that far and ruin my good reputation...

Blue Wave Gym

6 days for fedral assistance to arive, disgraceful, nuts to the clows running the fedral government 200 billion dollars to rebuild

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HtTKar

I thought I should resurrect this thread instead of creating a new one.

Did you hear that the government is not going to grant LA any money for repair? In normal circumstances, and in all past circumstances the state would be granted moneys by the government for natural disaster repair. This time..LA is being "Loaned" the money..which they will have to pay back.

http://www.2theadvocate.com/stories/...loans001.shtml

Now this strikes me as sickening. It was not this way for Florida, NYC, or Los Angelos during either the riots(people distroyed their own towns) or earthquakes. To double this..Pakistan just had a natural disaster last night that killed thousands of people. Bush stated that supplies and money were already on the way.

So why is Louisianna getting the shaft? Why did it take 30 times longer for our government to respond to states needs than to Pakistans needs? And I highly doubt Pakistan will have to repay the money.

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shaolin-warrior

Not for repairs, but for city employee payroll. local tax dollar pays city employees. The rebuilding money is not to be repaid, these are two different expenditures.

bbbb

...Un-Australian.(..just not Cricket).

Yeh..people don't listen..but what's the point in being a wealthy country if your soul is so dirty ya don't even help your own people in a natural disaster.

I was appalled.

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