EmptyneSs

i was reading an article today about how Jesse Jackson is currently in the middle east and recieved assurances from syria and hezbollah that the three captive israeli soldiers are alive and well. what i want to bring up, is that the fact that jesse jackson has actually succeeded multiple times in winning the freedom of captive prisoners around the world through diplomacy. despite the fact that jesse jackson has been involved in some shady stuff in the past, i sure as hell cant say that i ever saved anyones life. i never did anything as good as winning the the freedom of a captive human being. my question is what makes jesse jackson so successful as an ambassador of goodwill? how come foreigners trust jesse jackson so much and are willing to negotiate with him and release prisoners after meeting him? how does this guy do it? do you guys think jesse jackson is truly a good person? he may have been involved in some shady deals, or so the wickipidia states, but then again all politicians are so mabye its not a big deal?

jubaji

Jesse is an attention-whore race-baiter who either blackmails companies inside the US, or drops his drawers and offers himself up as a tool for dictators and terrorists to use in their efforts at embarrassing the US.

He's nothing but a self-serving, hypocritical racist.

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EmptyneSs

hmm thats funny, people on this forum say the same exact thing about you.

jubaji

Really? Who? Where?

Have I enriched myself from this forum?

Have I been proven a hypocrite?

Have I demonstrated racist attitudes?

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EmptyneSs

damn, this guys obsessed with oma, he cant stop talking about him. he hasnt even posted on this thread and already you are talking about him lol.

GonzoStyles

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EmptyneSs

i agree, that jesse jackson is a very questionable character and there is much controversy surrounding him. thats why i was astonished to find out that he has actually secured the freedom of many people around the world during his career, and thats pretty cool. i doubt ill ever do anything as great as saving another humans life, so i cant really talk shit. despite all the controvery he has been involved in, he has done some good things as well.

i really do have a problem with the fact that jesse jackson tried to make himself famous off dr kings death. jesse jackson tried to tell people that he was on the same balcony as dr king when he was shot, and that he cradled dr kings head in his arms when he died. the fact is, he wasnt even present on the balcony despite trying to claim he was. but still, he has saved the lives of other human beings, wether or not it was just to make himself look good or to make money.

gregimotis

Who's freedom has he secured?


And this:

If I were a two-bit dictator kidnapping Americans for attention, I'd like nothing better than to have Jesse Jackson show up at my door. That way, I can get in the newspapers (piggy-backing on somebody famous), and release my hostages before anybody gets really mad, AND I get to stick in the American establishments eye - all at the same time.
Heck I'm going to go out and kidnap some whiteys right now!


Gonna have to go with Jubaji on this one:
Jesse jackson is a race-baiting, self-serving tool.

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EmptyneSs

In 1983, Jackson traveled to Syria to secure the release of a captured American pilot, Navy Lt. Robert Goodman who was being held by the Syrian government. Goodman had been shot down over Lebanon while on a mission to bomb Syrian positions in that country. After a dramatic personal appeal that Jackson made to Syrian President Hafez al-Assad, Goodman was released. Initially, the Reagan administration was skeptical about Jackson's trip to Syria. However, after Jackson secured Goodman's release, President Reagan welcomed both Jackson and Goodman at the White House on January 4, 1984[2].

In June 1984, Jackson negotiated the release of twenty-two Americans being held in Cuba after an invitation by Cuban president Fidel Castro.[3]

In April 1999, during the Kosovo War, Jackson traveled to Belgrade to negotiate the release of three U.S. POW's captured on the Macedonia border while patrolling with a UN peacekeeping unit. He met with the then-Yugoslav president Slobodan Milošević, who later agreed to release the three men.[4]

-wickipedia


In 1990, he helped win the release from Iraq of more than 700 foreign women and children detained as human shields against an American military attack after Iraq's invasion of Kuwait.

http://www.wbz.com/topic/ap_news.php...east_a_a_-----

Mr. Arieson

I think he should just stay out of it. What business does he have getting involved in these things, anyway? he is in fact, a politician. The Pope or Dalai Lama are real religious leaders. I can understand why they get involved, but this guy is no different then Sean Penn. He has no right to get involved. In fact, there is the potential for him to cause even more harm by doing so.

Besides, it is not wise to ever negotiate with terrorists!!!!! No deals!!!

Penance

Well to be fair, he doesn't negotiate with them, as far as we know.

What does he have to offer them of value in exchange? He doesn't so much negotiate as much as he convinces them.

I don't like the guy. Too shady, too self-serving. It's cool he has saved lives, but I think others are right. He's just a convenient way for the hostage holders to escape the situation in a way that lets them make their point without having the hammer brought down on them.

Put yourself in their shoes. You hate the greatest superpower on the planet. Its military could vaporize your entire country in a week if it really wanted to. A country that could also remove you from power and topple your government just as fast.

You have several hostages in your control. If you kill them, you gain nothing except outrage and the hammer being dropped. If you can get some American representative to come over and beg for their release in front of the world, you seem "generous" and reasonable, as opposed to bloodthirsty and cruel. Jesse gets to play to the cameras.

It's a total P.R. move for them both.

GonzoStyles

I think Eddie Murphy hit it dead on, (check my youtube link on this post if you dont know what I mean)

Rainbow coalition my ass.

I mean Hymie town? come on how much more racist can you get?

sing it! "Don't let me down! Hymie town!"

Uke

I'm not by any means suggesting that Jesse Jackson is a saint, but I am saying that as politicians go, he ain't half bad.

To be honest, no one stopped any other politician or religious man from going over to the numerous countries that Jackson has gone to in order to save lives. What's everybody else's excuse for not going?

The problem here seems to be that people view him as looking for glory instead of doing what he actually did: Risking his life to save others. Let me ask you this: What kickbacks did Jackson receive by risking his life and going to negotiate for the lives of these men?

Most of the men he got returned alive weren't black, so it wasn't to garner support for the "black" vote.

Jackson is marred in the media, so its not for his perceived image.

His efforts are constantly devalued despite his long record of service to the people since the days of Martin Luther King jr.

He's been arrested on many nonviolent protests with Dr King and on his own. He wasn't getting paid for that either.

So what are the self serving advantages that he's amassed going overseas? Is he some celebrated American hero? Is he getting sneaker endorsments from Nike?

What's really pathetic is that some view him saving lives as him making America look bad.

Was Jackson making America look bad when he went to Venezuela to smooth over supposed man of God Pat Robertson's moronic implication that President Hugo Chavez should be assassinated? Hmmm ... but its Jackson that makes America look bad?

I wonder if Jesse Jackson was getting some under the table deal when it was him that went to support Terri Schiavo's parents in their fight to keep their daughter alive? I'm sure he got loaded off of that move.

Again, no one is saying the man is a saint, but don't try to single him out as some unique self serving politician. He like every other politician plays the game. However you may feel about him, unlike most politicians who only make promises, he's got one helluva record for getting shit done.

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jubaji

They didn't choose to make themselves whores and pawns of America's enemies?

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jubaji

Publicity. Don't be stupid (if you can help it).

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