bustr

Check out this historical fact.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...866942,00.html

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DickHardman

yup, rumsfeld and the usa didnt seem to mind iraq and saddams use of chemical weapons when he was killing thousands of iranians, kurds, and his own iraqi people. i hope rumsfeld burns in hell with his homie saddam, they both have the blood of many people on their hands.

bustr

Robert Scheer: Silencing Saddam

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/...sein_executed/

Posted on Dec 29, 2006

By Robert Scheer
It is a very frightening precedent that the United States can invade a country on false pretenses, depose its leader and summarily execute him without an international trial or appeals process. This is about vengeance, not justice, for if it were the latter the existing international norms would have been observed. The trial should have been overseen by the World Court, in a country that could have guaranteed the safety of defense lawyers, who, in this case, were killed or otherwise intimidated.
The irony here is that the crimes for which Saddam Hussein was convicted occurred before the United States, in the form of Donald Rumsfeld, embraced him. Those crimes were well known to have occurred 15 months before Rumsfeld visited Iraq to usher in an alliance between the United States and Saddam to defeat Iran.
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The fact is that Saddam Hussein knew a great deal about the United States’ role in Iraq, including deals made with Bush’s father. This rush to execute him had the feel of a gangster silencing the key witness to a crime.
At Nuremberg in the wake of World War II the U.S. set the bar very high by declaring that even the Nazis, who had committed the most heinous of crimes, should have a fair trial. The U.S. and allies insisted on this not to serve those charged, but to educate the public through a believable accounting. In the case of Saddam, the bar was lowered to the mud, with the proceedings turned into a political circus reminiscent of Stalin’s show trials.
Iraqi state television
Iraqi state television broadcasted footage of Saddam’s hanging.



It seems to me that Saddam still had something to say, even when the rope was around his kneck. Judge for yourselves in the mobile phone video.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=863ce7d4a3

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Oswald Spengler

DickHardman

his execution was leaked to the internet by some dude who filmed it on his cellphone....wtf??

btw, that was the shadiest shit ive ever seen in my life. saddam may have been a barbarian, but that doesn't give others the right to act the same way. what a nice photo op.

GonzoStyles

best said in Latin

"panem et circenses" translated 'bread and circuses'

mysteryninja

I saw the cell phone video of the hanging. Even after all Saddam did I found it very disturbing!

I also clicked on all the links. Very interesting. What goes around comes around, and one day the US is going to pay for everything our leaders did to other countries. (and it will be worse then 9/11)

gregimotis

Okay,
You can say anything you want about the U.S., Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney, whoever in the U.S. you feel like vilifing, you can go ahead and do that but lets have a little clarity.

Let's get it straight: Saddam Hussien killed thousands of people. Many thousands. He had civilians killed. he had hundreds of people tortured to death.

Whatever is happening in Guantanamo bay... Saddam's Abu Gharib makes that look like Sunday school. Husseins Abu Gharib makes the United Sates' Abu Gharib look like a petting zoo. Hussein's Iraq burned people to death. Tore people apart. Shot them in the streets and then shot their families, too.



There isn't anything you can say about the United States - true or false - that changes the fact that Saddam Hussein didn't even start to get what he had coming.

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bustr

I don't disagree. I think that bush, cheney and rumsfeld should also be charged since they armed him. This latest war has taken about 600,000 Iraqi lives and probably 5000 Americans if you count those that died after leaving the battlefield.

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“Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.”
Henry Kissinger

"There is no proletarian, not even a Communist, movement, that has not operated in the interests of money, in the direction indicated by money, and for the time being permitted by money — and that without the idealists among its leaders having the slightest suspicion of the fact."
Oswald Spengler

jubaji

So...you're going around posting this on every forum you can find?

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jubaji

That's a good post, right there.

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bustr

No. Only those that have an enlightened membership and a proper forum for such discussions.

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Henry Kissinger

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Oswald Spengler

jubaji

"enlightened"



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bustr

I just mean people that can read between the lines, think outside the box, question the official story. Not the neocon nut-hugging types that you find on some forums.

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George W Bush

“Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.”
Henry Kissinger

"There is no proletarian, not even a Communist, movement, that has not operated in the interests of money, in the direction indicated by money, and for the time being permitted by money — and that without the idealists among its leaders having the slightest suspicion of the fact."
Oswald Spengler

DickHardman

doesn't mean we cant discuss it, or be disgusted by the way others have acted.

jubaji

You're not "thinking outside the box" ya dope, you're just sitting inside another box.

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