Hip Hop Profanity, Misogyny and Violence: Blame the Manufacturer - Page 6

The_Judo_Jibboo · 05-15-2007, 04:26 PM

I read the article and a few of the first posts, but nothing in between because i'm taking a five-minute break from writing a final paper, so i apologize if the parallel has already been drawn, but this isn't just hip-hop, it's done to black culture in general. there's a great collection of essays titled "The Devil and Dave Chapelle" that i strongly recommend to anyone interested in this. The corporate business side of things is exactly why Dave Chapelle turned down millions of dollars and went back to doing stand-up. He realized that by simply participating in the business he was in creative control was being wrested from him and instead of laughing at how stupid it was to think in terms of stereotypes (the original intent of the show) he was being asked to use stereotypes in a way that made them acceptable.

Garland · 05-15-2007, 06:16 PM

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You went waaaaaaay on the other side of the spectrum

ever see "Bamboozled"?

treelizard · 05-15-2007, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Garland

ever see "Bamboozled"?

Is it as good as Run, Lola, Run?

blitz · 05-15-2007, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by treelizard

Is it as good as Run, Lola, Run?

Even better.

Tom Yum · 05-15-2007, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Uke

That is funny. Especially because many of the execs in that industry barely graduated high school, let alone went to college. Jay Z was selling drugs in the projects, while Puffy was a back up dancer in music videos. They didn't attend any MBA programs, but each one has enough money to buy an NBA team.

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Originally Posted by Uke

If the way they wrote was an indication of their know-how, then they'd be broke. That isn't the case, now is it?

True and excellent point. I imagine there are many more folks who wanted to be execs but couldn't make it and could certainly benefit by falling back on a college education.

medic06 · 05-16-2007, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Garland

ever see "Bamboozled"?

Yep. It was a very clever movie that didn't get the props it deserved.

medic06 · 05-16-2007, 10:22 AM

Somebody neg repped me and didn't have the guts to put there name down.

Garland · 05-16-2007, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by medic06

Yep. It was a very clever movie that didn't get the props it deserved.

amen to that. great film.

I'm surprised nobody neg repped me on this thread. people can be so...touchy.

treelizard · 05-16-2007, 06:49 PM

Anyway, anyone who wants to listen to hip hop without the profanity can just set up a free account at pandora.com, create "stations" based on your favorite artists and songs, and check off the "no profanity" link. This is for personal use and not over a loudspeaker at your gym, but it's awesome. I don't think they screen for misogyny and violence, however.

treelizard · 05-22-2007, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Garland

I'm surprised nobody neg repped me on this thread. people can be so...touchy.

I got negged too but I thought it was funny.

05-15-2007, 04:26 PM	#76 (permalink)
The_Judo_Jibboo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 395 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I read the article and a few of the first posts, but nothing in between because i'm taking a five-minute break from writing a final paper, so i apologize if the parallel has already been drawn, but this isn't just hip-hop, it's done to black culture in general. there's a great collection of essays titled "The Devil and Dave Chapelle" that i strongly recommend to anyone interested in this. The corporate business side of things is exactly why Dave Chapelle turned down millions of dollars and went back to doing stand-up. He realized that by simply participating in the business he was in creative control was being wrested from him and instead of laughing at how stupid it was to think in terms of stereotypes (the original intent of the show) he was being asked to use stereotypes in a way that made them acceptable. __________________ "When the enemy comes, welcome him. When he goes, send him on his way." So the real message here is that in a SD situation you should always take off your trousers... -jubaji

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treelizard Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: the desert Posts: 3,442 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Anyway, anyone who wants to listen to hip hop without the profanity can just set up a free account at pandora.com, create "stations" based on your favorite artists and songs, and check off the "no profanity" link. This is for personal use and not over a loudspeaker at your gym, but it's awesome. I don't think they screen for misogyny and violence, however. __________________ http://www.dirttime.org http://morewomeninmma.blogspot.com

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