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Old 09-15-2007, 03:29 PM   #16 (permalink)
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A monumentally stupid idea.
No, I disagree. Not a stupid idea, just completely impractical, for the reasons I stated. Every time we try to come up with something to replace coal or oil, ultra leftist environmental loons protest, because it could effect the gnatcatcher or yellow bellied lizard population. Lets just say we found a way to produce energy from sea water. In a few years, crazy leftists would be blaming us for consuming too much water, and lowering the sea levels. You watch.

But that's where I differ with right wing whackos like you Jubaji. While you quickly deem something "monumentaly stupid" you do absolutely nothing to find a solution, except to say that God made oil for us to use, and that there is no chance of depletion. The agenda of the right, when it comes to oil, is plain for all to see. Money. And moreover, you block any suggestions to attempt to find a better way. That's the essence of what a conservative republican is. Someone who stays the course, never changes, is obstinate and thinks those are all good character traits. Anyone changing thier mind is a flip flopper, right?

Your right wing radio hosts are famous for thier spin. Thier idea of an argument is to loudly shut down the other side, and claim they won the debate. As I have said before (and I do listen to Rush, Ziegler and Drudge daily) all you guys have to do is mention Hilary, snicker and laugh, use enough contempt in your voice, and you don't need to even bring up any facts or truth. You just steamroll right over any opposition. Rush Limbaugh is an evil man, in my opinion, and a tool of the extreme right. His show is completely one sided. There is never any debate when he has a captive audience, and control of that mute button. Anyone coming close to proving him wrong is quickly shut down. But, he always wins, because he looks like a rugged American football coach, smokes cigars, plays golf. it's a stereotype that people intrinsically look up to, when compared to a milquetoast like Al Franken, who looks like the smart aleck nerd you always wanted to beat up in high school.

I would like to hear your take on an alternative for oil, and what you are going to do about it. At least most democrats are trying, despite your villification of people like Al Gore. Al Gore may not be right about everything, but he is trying to point out problems. You just deny there even is a problem, or say that Al Gore is a hypocrite. That's all we ever get from the extreme right. Laughter, derision and snickering. Heck, Rush Limbaugh could even denounce Mother Teresa, and you all would be nodding your heads in agreement, saying "that's soooo true"!!
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Yeah, look how well that attitude worked out.
Not very well, but how well has Bush's policy worked out?

Jubaji, when fighting Al queda, where are you going to go? The closest we have gotten to a state sponsor was the Taliban. I agreed wholeheartedly with the decision to throw those bums out. But those 19 assholes who flew the planes were not from Iraq. Sadamm never would have allowed any competition from Osama Bin Laden. I admit this much, Iraq was a threat, but that threat is over now-lets come home, and let them deal with thier own problems. I would highly doubt that Al Queda will step in to the vacumn. And I could care less how many purple stained fingers they stick in the air. They are not worth American lives. Those people are animals, and they will never want nor engage in democracy. The only ones that will are the expatriots that live here among us, with thier business they own and thier smart kids getting straight A's in our colleges. They are Americans now, even if they like to eat goat once in a while.
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And by the way, do you ever get "infractions"? I mean, you just called me a "fucking moron". You almost always call people names, or do personal attacks.
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And by the way, do you ever get "infractions"? I mean, you just called me a "fucking moron". You almost always call people names, or do personal attacks.
Look at his avatar closely.....while imagining him saying that....LOL. Isn't that hillarious?
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No, I disagree. Not a stupid idea, just completely impractical!

If something is "completely impractical" then it is a stupid idea. If it couldn't, wouldn't, and won't work, it is a stupid idea and a masterbatory waste of time.


The rest of your pointless, presumptuous bullshit I didn't bother reading. Your addiction to 'guessing' and obsessive use of conditionals is tired and old. Leave that nonsense in 'imagination world' you illogical pos.
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Not very well, but how well has Bush's policy worked out? .


How many terrorist attacks have there been in the US since 9/11?
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Iraq was a threat.
how was iraq a threat to us?? iraq was fully contained before the war. the no fly zones we imposed on iraq kept them in a tight grip. they didnt even have the power to secure their own air space, let alone launch some kind of effective assault on us. they had no delivery system even if they had wmds. they had no icbms, no warships or carriers, no submarines, not even decent aircraft.



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And I could care less how many purple stained fingers they stick in the air. They are not worth American lives. Those people are animals, and they will never want nor engage in democracy.
that sounds as fanatical and ignorant as anything these right wing wackoffs say. why are those people animals? because they lived in a fucked up country that was brutally raped and repressed by a dictator we propped up and even gave the key of detroit to when he visited us?? or are they animals because some of them chose to take up arms against multiple foreign armies that invaded and leveled what was left of their country after they survived the brutal reign of a dictator??

they never want engage in democracy?? go tell that to all the iraqis who made their way through a warzone just to have the opportunity to vote. tell that to the families of those who were killed by militant terrorists when they were on their way to vote.
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I would highly doubt that Al Queda will step in to the vacumn.
al queda has already stepped in to the vacuum. we leti them roll in and set up shop and create entire regions within iraq that are now being referred to as " Disneylands for terrorists". and since we dont have enough troops to secure even Baghdad, every time we clean out one of these terrorist controlled areas, they just simply move to another stagimg area. and the longer we stay there, the more militant terrorist groups will be able to use your presence there as a recruiting tool to trick even more people into coming to iraq to fight. its possible that the people in our country dont even want any of these wars to stop anytime soon. there is SERIOUS money being made off these wars, why would all these people in powerful positions in government who own large companies that are now making tons of money want all that to stop? look at afghanistan. 6 years of war and occupying that country and opium production in that country is at an all time high.

" The war on in iraq has created far more terrorists than it has deterred."
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how was iraq a threat to us?? iraq was fully contained before the war. the no fly zones we imposed on iraq kept them in a tight grip. they didnt even have the power to secure their own air space, let alone launch some kind of effective assault on us. they had no delivery system even if they had wmds. they had no icbms, no warships or carriers, no submarines, not even decent aircraft.





that sounds as fanatical and ignorant as anything these right wing wackoffs say. why are those people animals? because they lived in a fucked up country that was brutally raped and repressed by a dictator we propped up and even gave the key of detroit to when he visited us?? or are they animals because some of them chose to take up arms against multiple foreign armies that invaded and leveled what was left of their country after they survived the brutal reign of a dictator??

they never want engage in democracy?? go tell that to all the iraqis who made their way through a warzone just to have the opportunity to vote. tell that to the families of those who were killed by militant terrorists when they were on their way to vote.

Dick, seriously-I call them animals based on the sectarian violence, where 50 farmers are taken off a bus, bound, tortured and then executed. Simply because they were shite, or simply because they are sunni. I call them animals when they like and encourage shariat law, which is evil, ok? Did you read about the two boys who got 300 lashes each, and then were hung? That was for a relatively small crime. 300 lashes. They allowed the first 20 to heal first, and then administer the rest. Western society stopped those barbaric practices a long time ago.
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How many terrorist attacks have there been in the US since 9/11?

Because we are in Iraq? No, perhaps it is because all of us are more vigilant now. Perhaps because they can never hijack a plane with box cutters again, as that was a one shot deal and they got very lucky. Weapons of mass destruction had nothing to do with 9/11.
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Look at his avatar closely.....while imagining him saying that....LOL. Isn't that hillarious?
A lot of things are funny, Tom. Perhaps I was only joking around when I made fun of you-know-who, what with the insurance cracks and all. Still, I got infractioned for it.
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If something is "completely impractical" then it is a stupid idea. If it couldn't, wouldn't, and won't work, it is a stupid idea and a materbatory waste of time.


The rest of your pointless, presumptuous bullshit I didn't bother reading. Your addiction to 'guessing' and obsessive use of conditionals is tired and old. Leave that nonsense in 'imagination world' you illogical pos.
"didn't bother reading" Of course not. But I bet you manage to fully read the Drudge report. And take every word for gospel.
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If something is "completely impractical" then it is a stupid idea. If it couldn't, wouldn't, and won't work, it is a stupid idea and a materbatory waste of time.


The rest of your pointless, presumptuous bullshit I didn't bother reading. Your addiction to 'guessing' and obsessive use of conditionals is tired and old. Leave that nonsense in 'imagination world' you illogical pos.
Yeah, and I am still waiting for your ideas on alternative energy. Do you have any ideas, Jubaji? Or do you just want to name call, and say what I am saying is "tired and old". Or is that just your self-description?

I am waiting.
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how was iraq a threat to us?? iraq was fully contained before the war. the no fly zones we imposed on iraq kept them in a tight grip. they didnt even have the power to secure their own air space, let alone launch some kind of effective assault on us. they had no delivery system even if they had wmds. they had no icbms, no warships or carriers, no submarines, not even decent aircraft.





that sounds as fanatical and ignorant as anything these right wing wackoffs say. why are those people animals? because they lived in a fucked up country that was brutally raped and repressed by a dictator we propped up and even gave the key of detroit to when he visited us?? or are they animals because some of them chose to take up arms against multiple foreign armies that invaded and leveled what was left of their country after they survived the brutal reign of a dictator??

they never want engage in democracy?? go tell that to all the iraqis who made their way through a warzone just to have the opportunity to vote. tell that to the families of those who were killed by militant terrorists when they were on their way to vote.
Iraq was not fully contained as you think. If he could have made WMDs, and used them, he would have. Sadamm did pose a threat to everyone. I just disagree with the way the Iraq war was done. And I disagree with anyone who says there was a link between 9/11 and Sadamn. I mean, "Sadamm".
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Yeah, and I am still waiting for your ideas on alternative energy. Do you have any ideas, Jubaji? Or do you just want to name call, and say what I am saying is "tired and old". Or is that just your self-description?

I am waiting.
Still waiting, Jubaji. I bumped this up to the next page because I want everyone to see your alternatives to oil.
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