TTEscrima

Tell it to Tibet. Can you give us one example of this in the history of mankind?

JKDBrando

eutopian idelaism is crap. That is not my view at all. Those guys creep me out but I do not dismiss them because they are different....

There is a thing called The Bible: The Old Testament, The Bible: The New Testament, The Book of Revolations, and all of the Gospels from the Witnesses of Jesus.
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You have forgot about these? It is not just a cute story for you to read and believe is fiction. When the day comes and Jesus Judge's everyone what will his Judgement be on you? Wicked or Righteous. Who know's when that will happen, but if you have Faith you might be on the better end of the Judgement. You may not have the Faith of the Creator but be an overall nice person, who does all the right things because they are right to do and help others and stand up to the bad that also might be on the better side of the Judgement.
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I am not promoting a religion I am just expressing how confused we all are. We were brought up this way which is not our fault. But if you are told that it is wrong and you go against it anyway then you have chosen your side. Being Righteous does not mean you can not have sex, fun, a friendly brawl or have nice things that you don't need. That is the misconception of humanism that makes being good bad.

Wake up guys. I know most see some of the points while disregarding others but that is up to you to learn and finding your way back to the good.

Why go to work for 40 years and then die? Why make ourselves obiest beyong belief, why go to war, why hate someone because they are different then you. This is all wrong.

If I had my way right now I would suggest a world wide stand off where as many people, I am talking billions just leave work for a week and collapse this whole world and start over. Go back to what is important. Food, Water, Family and Friends. Go back to the basics.

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Mike Brewer

No, because there's not one.

I can give you tons of examples of how peaceful, accepting people died out hoping their aggressors would just return the favor, though.

Food, water, family and friends ARE important - and worth defending against those who would harm them. Sitting passively by with a fogiving attitude while someone beats my daughter is unacceptable. Not punishing those responsible for beating my teenage daughter would be equally unacceptable.

And, by the way, in that book you mentioned? God Himself lays down a few laws - and sends men to punish wrongdoers. If it were all in His hands and we were not meant to play a role, why bother with laws?

JKDBrando

These are the Laws that God has given. The Ten Commandments. The rest of the Laws in the world were mostly made up to tell you what you can or can not do. It limits what you can have.
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1 "You shall have no other gods before [a] me.

2 "You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.

3 "You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.

4 "Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. 11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.

5 "Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you.

6 "You shall not murder.

7 "You shall not commit adultery.

8 "You shall not steal.

9 "You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.

10 "You shall not covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor."


You have heard the saying "money is the root of all evil". Which is another thing that was created to tell you what you couldn't have. You heard of the Illuminati, You heard of Satan. You probably know the story of Satan or the Story of Job.

You are being tested, God lets things develope, so ask why God lets things happens. It's because you have Free Will and he wants you to choose.

Going to back to the original subject. I do think that the people that did this to the girl will get what they deserve but the court system will barely effect them at all. They want people to act like that so they can have a job the next day.

I will not convience anyone to believe in what they do not, but I will say this now. I have no trust in the government or the world politics or even the legal department. They are out to get us, you know, I know it, we all know it but we do nothing.

Courage, Bravery, Standing up to fight the good fight is not happening. The fact is everyone is a scared sheep and afraid to leap.

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Jujujason

I think it's hilarious how many Christians have turned God into this long haired hippie, chillin' up in heaven, smokin' a doobie, loving everyone and forgiving everything. Well, I can give you numerous examples in the bible where God puts his foot deep up the ass of wrong doers and where he expects his subjects to do the same. However, it is correct that we should forgive these scum-bags but only AFTER they've been suitably punished. To do otherwise would be idiotic at the least.

Tant01

The Law of Moses was a TUTOR leading to Christ. While we are no longer BOUND by the LAW we should adhere it it's PRINCIPLES.

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James Paterson

Mike Brewer

So what point are you trying to make, exactly? That we need to stand up for ourselves because no one is going to do it for us? Or that we shouldn't hold wrongdoing against anyone because it's all in God's hands?

You're flipping and flopping like sandals on Miami Beach, bro.

On the one hand, you're saying that girl who got her ass kicked should forgive nad forget and leave it to God. Then you come back and sound indignant that no one is standing up for themselves? You accuse those who don't of being cowards or "sheep." According to your own belief system, you shouldn't be complaining about the government or anyone else being "out to get you." You should accept it, turn the other cheek, forgive and forget, and leave it to God.

Or do the same rules not really apply to you and your problems as they do to the girl in the video and her problems?

Tant01

Updated Wed. Apr. 9 2008 1:33 PM ET

The Associated Press

BARTOW, Florida -- The father of a 16-year-old Florida girl -- allegedly beaten unconscious by six other girls who planned to post the video on the Internet -- is blaming it on society.


Patrick Lindsay tells the CBS "Early Show'' that Americans who glamourize violence are "destroying our kids' minds and their hearts.''


Officials say two boys served as lookouts while the girls attacked Victoria Lindsay at a friend's house.


The Polk County sheriff says some parents have shown remorse for the beating, but the teenagers haven't.


The victim's mother says the girl is being home-schooled for now, saying it would be "too much of a humiliation'' for her to go back to class.

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James Paterson

JKDBrando

Thanks Tant01 for the update.

Society - Mike is that you that they blame it on? Because you believe in getting even and being in the cool crowd and not being able to shrug something off?

Mike you are my brother and I only say things at you because you can take it but mostly you will be the witness to the world changing.

Those kids blamed it on society. See how confused we are.

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7r14ngL3Ch0k3

they were probably influenced by the ultimate fighting movie , Never Back Down.

Tant01

The father of the victim blamed society... The kids have shown no remorse...

They should be held accountable to the full extent of the law. Prosecuted as adults and locked away... They may repay a debt to SOCIETY and THEN be forgiven.

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James Paterson

JKDBrando

Ok correction then but it is still the same thing.

Like I said before it's not our fault with have faulty views.
It is the brain washing that is destroying or hearts and minds.
I was born in to a materialistic world and been unaware and distracted also.
I have found enlightenment. I do not go to a Church and have only been less then 5 times over my 24 years of life.
You can live with God with out a Church that is corrupted that is only feeding wrong information to distract and confuse you so that eventually you will forget. That's the goal of Satan. God let it be that way for the Truth to find you or you find the Truth. Like I said before if you know the Truth and look the other way you have chosen your side. If Judgement day was today...
Good news travels fast and last. So you can always look differently later on because the good is not going any where.

I am for the justice as long as the heart is right, if the heart is right then God has given approval.

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KenshiRyan

I said hopfully Jujujason which means im doubtful, and yes i too hope the system hammers the shit out of these kids with the same mercy they showed that girl

Tant01

Your so called enlightenment leaves much to your own reasoning...

Ignorance of the LAW is no exuse for the behavior.

Nothing like taking responsibility for our own decisions, eh? Just blame it on society?

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James Paterson

JKDBrando

I said that for a reason. The reason is so everyone can open thier mind to something new. Going to a church does not mean you believe in God, Having a religion does not mean you believe in God. All the religions in the world were made up to confuse the Truth about what God has said in his Bible and his Son Jesus came and told us.

This Truth shatters people because they have been told something for so long that turns out to be a lie.

Like Evolution... not real. Does this shatter your world...

I am taking responsibility for what ever I have done. Taking responsibility is important, blaming things on society proves exactly the type of world we are in that you can even say something like that.

If I have offended anyone then good. I'll take responsibility for it. If someone wants to know more about what I am saying then even better.

I am responsible for the Truth being said to you like this.

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