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Old 05-13-2008, 12:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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They never called or showed up to give me my Bible. It's too bad I think I could have convinced them to leave the cult of mormonism by showing them the last verse in the Book Of Revelation.


[18] For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
[19] And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
[20] He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
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That's only if you believe a book can vouch for its own truthfulness.

It's like saying "I'm right, and I'll always be right no matter what changes, because I say so!"
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That's only if you believe a book can vouch for its own truthfulness.

It's like saying "I'm right, and I'll always be right no matter what changes, because I say so!"
I don't believe that a book alone is evidence enough to validate its Truth. I had to look at the Historical record, and unbiased sources. In the case of the Bible, that is what I did.. research the Historical record especially from Non-Christian sources such as the Roman Historian Flavius Josephus, Scientific/Archaeological evidence, and testimonies from numerous eyewitnesses.
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They never called or showed up to give me my Bible. It's too bad I think I could have convinced them to leave the cult of mormonism by showing them the last verse in the Book Of Revelation.


[18] For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
[19] And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
[20] He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
In no way defending the Mormon cult, but the above passages refer to the book of Revelation itself. Back before they were the one collection they later were formed into - thus the word Bible = Books - each was referred to as a book:

Genesis 5:1 - "This is the book of the generations of Adam."

Though there are passages, the words of Deuteronomy 28:58's "If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, THE LORD THY GOD;" refer to the book Deuteronomy itself, for example and not to the entire Bible which was not yet written in it's entirety, nor collected into the one book it later became known as, for example. The same is the case with Revelation, which, though the last book in the Bible, was not the last book written.

As for external sources, Archeology, etc., they are secondary to the internal evidence of the Bible itself, books written centuries and even entire generations apart from one another yet by individiuals who did not have access to books that were found centuries later - books turning out consistent between individual authors.

There is a lot of "Church Scholarship" which further clouds these issues up. Guys who basically study each other's writings rather than "researching their own experience" within the Bible itself. To a man, they all cite one another regarding for example, "external evidence," that the Gospel of John was written in 95 AD.

Even though it's writer (the same writer of Revelation) uses present tense language in describing scenes of his day, which the Romans had destroyed in 70 AD when they leveled the entire city to the ground, where it basically lay in ruins for centuries:

John 5:2 -" Now there is in Jerusalem near the Sheep Gate a pool, which in Aramaic is called Bethesda and which is surrounded by five covered colonnades."

In short, there is better evidence against the Book of Mormon (the same evidence against the Q'uran's authenticity, by the way), and in the same place - within the Bible itself.

Anyway, just showing off - LOL!
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