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Old 06-23-2008, 11:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation very sad yet very true

where is god?

i dont see him here...
very sad very true
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Old 06-24-2008, 07:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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God is still on throne, in complete Control of the entire Universe. Just because at the present moment there is death and destruction doesn't mean that God is absent or is not in control.
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Nope. There is no "god".
Life has no purpose or intrinsic meaning.
And after you die all you do is rot and not exist.

So...your life really is meaningless.
And if you kill yourself...it really doesn't matter.



Just putting that out there.
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Old 06-24-2008, 04:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Nope. There is no "god".
Life has no purpose or intrinsic meaning.
And after you die all you do is rot and not exist.

So...your life really is meaningless.
And if you kill yourself...it really doesn't matter.



Just putting that out there.
Good man, lets chew some fat on this one.

God? Agreed.
Life has the purpose that you attribute to it, pursue during it, and find within it.
Death? Agreed.

If you mean that life is meaningless in the context of some form of higher contribution to an imaginary consciousness or "why are we here" then I agree. We are here just cos we are, don't waste 75 years asking the wrong questions, spend it making your own answers. Its your life, so the meaning is what you find in it.

And yes if you kill yourself it has absolutely no consequence whatsoever, because you are dead. But what about those that I leave behind? It doesn't matter, you're dead, they existed in a consciousness that required your brain to be alive, and its isn't anymore. You're dead.
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Life has the purpose that you attribute to it, pursue during it, and find within it.
If you mean that life is meaningless in the context of some form of higher contribution to an imaginary consciousness or "why are we here" then I agree.
Yeppers...even though my post was laced with sarcasm, I do believe that life has no intrinsic, a priori meaning, and that whatever meaning we ascribe to it is subjecive and of our own (more or less...the existence of free agency is another thing I could argue for or against) design.

We make the meaning in our life...

unless you are a nihilist like me...and then you just shit on everything.

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Nope. There is no "god".
I've got to disagree, I've even got proof he exists!!

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Nope. There is no "god".
Life has no purpose or intrinsic meaning.
And after you die all you do is rot and not exist.

So...your life really is meaningless.
And if you kill yourself...it really doesn't matter.



Just putting that out there.
Its okay man, I used to be Roman Catholic too... some people just don't recover, I was one of the lucky ones
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Its okay man, I used to be Roman Catholic too... some people just don't recover, I was one of the lucky ones
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we can't See God, but i know that he's still up there looking on what we are doing!! Just Have faith in Him and you can feel and see Him inside your Heart!!
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we can't See God, but i know that he's still up there looking on what we are doing!! Just Have faith in Him and you can feel and see Him inside your Heart!!
And How do you know this? you don't, you BELIEVE it
there is no proof for the exsistence of a god or gods(no capitals)

now I know there will be people saying that there is no proof of no gods exsisting too but then neither is there for unicorns or giant spagetti monsters or a parallel universe
You can not even proof santa claus doesn't exsist
Why do you think you know the christian story is true and not the hindu story?
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actually believe as we know now 'doesnt mean the same as it did back than.
the origional meaning ofthe word believe is:
believe=Knowing what is right/truth.

anyways:
you cannot prove that something exists or doesn't exist that you do not see.

The only way to find out if God really exists..is to die.
The only way to find out of "Chi" actually exists (like those over distance knockouts) well...you can't know if it'exists or not. nobody can prove that it either exists or not.

sure you can see from both God, and Chi that it does do something but you cannot prove if that comes from either one.
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Actually god exists on faith alone. If you were to prove that god existed you would not need faith in him therefore he would cease to exist.

It's a paradox.

I prefer to feel that I alone am accountable for my own actions and neither exterior forces of "good" or "evil" can be blamed instead of me.

Not to mention this could spark the whole discussion of what exactly "good" and "evil" are since it seems to vary from culture to culture depending on what's socially acceptable.
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Hmm something interesting that you say:
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I prefer to feel that I alone am accountable for my own actions and neither exterior forces of "good" or "evil" can be blamed instead of me.
From where did you got the believe that knowing that God exists and following him changes that you are responsable for your own actions?

The Bible tells you to act responsible, to take your responsibility,
But aswell as that there is an bigger higher force than you or other humans here,
One that made you, one that we call God, one that you should respect and thank for everything that we got.
Every Good time in life but also the challenges that he gives us in life so we can become stronger, but at the same time one that loves you as his child.
also punnishes you as an good father would punnish his child to teach him what is good and bad. and to let the child grow up with a feeling of right and wrong, and to be responsible.

The same as that we got an good (or for some bad) youth from our earthly parents we got everything that we got from God,
But that doesn't say that he didn't let us work hard for it.

In the end we are responsible for all that we do.
Now exept for the old type of father that would hit or even kill his child if it acts otherways than he likes,
He chooses to love the child and gives it an way to get out without an punnishment,
same as when you where young you stole an bike(something else) and your father would punnish you if you lied to him and said that you didn't stole it or makes you promise to not do it again and return the bike(or something else) to it's real owner and appologize to him and ask forgiveness.

In short:
If you did bad you will get bad back, if you did in the end good you will get good things back. so no-one's responsible but you for what you do in the end, we all make mistakes but we also have possibility's to make it right.
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