darrianation

Another difference; Rumsfeld, Regean, Bush did not praise Saddam or the Taliban.

“A special tribute came from Khalidi's friend and frequent dinner companion, the young state Sen. Barack Obama. Speaking to the crowd, Obama reminisced about meals prepared by Khalidi's wife, Mona, and conversations that had challenged his thinking.

His many talks with the Khalidis, Obama said, had been "consistent reminders to me of my own blind spots and my own biases. . . . It's for that reason that I'm hoping that, for many years to come, we continue that conversation -- a conversation that is necessary not just around Mona and Rashid's dinner table," but around "this entire world."

Story here: Allies of Palestinians see a friend in Barack Obama - Los Angeles Times

~WORLDS APART~

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darrianation

Just for fun, more proof the Democrats and government interference caused the financial crisis.

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jubaji

I'm glad you can enjoy the freedom and security to be so ignorant, but you will have to grow up sometime.

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Ghost

lol you dont have any answers.

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jubaji

You don't get it. There is nothing to discuss with you because you aren't capable yet. Would you try to discuss theoretical physics with a 2 year old?

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I didn't watch Obama's infomercial...I had better things to do but here are a couple of posts about it.

Obama TV: Dear Leader’s infomercial
By Michelle Malkin • October 29, 2008 08:00 PM

Higher purpose…blahblahblah…Change We Need…blahblahblah…Every American must play a role…Take care of one another…blahblahblah…

Just doing a little pre-liveblogging of the Obama-mercial, which begins in just a few minutes.

8:00pm Eastern. Here we go. The ad opens up with amber waves of grain, American flags…

The phoniness reeks.
“Change” count: 10.

Obama is now profiling Americans in economic distress.

1) Rebecca Johnson (Johnston?). She’s mad about rising mortgage payments.

Obama’s decrying the market turmoil, touting the “rescue plan” (AKA crap sandwich), and bloviating about his bogus tax cuts.

2) Now, he’s talking to a retiree about his pension. He repeats his new mantra that “government can’t solve all our problems.” He’s been saying this over and over again the past few days. His internals must show that the “Senator Government” jibe is hurting him. (See: The Democrats want your 401(k))

*Video Added:



3) Obama moves on to a black couple without medical insurance and burdensome home payments. More sob stories.

No, don’t expect to see any sympathy for renters or couples who refrained from indulging in the subprime craze.

4) Promises, promises, promises — tax credits for fuel efficient cars, invest in clean coal, expand domestic production for oil.

Again: “Government can’t do it all.”

And: “Usher in a new era of responsibility.”

5) Iraq. “We are spending more in Iraq now than when we started the war.” So… he wouldn’t have spent money on the surge that he opposed but now supports?

Google CEO Eric Schmidt makes an appearance. Va. Democrat Gov. Tim Kaine.

6) Another heart-wrenching tale. A woman working two jobs and taking classes at night. She feels like she’s drowning in bills.

Who doesn’t?

It’s not clear what exactly she wants — and what Obama wants us to do. Pay for her educational training? What?

7) Obama is talking about his family now. Too funny: They’re playing his soundbite about turning the tv off and putting away the video games. Tell it to Malia, mister.

Hardly saw his father. Had to wake up early. Now here we go: His Education Plan will give tax credits for training. Right To Affordable Health Care.

But hey - government can’t solve all our problems!

8:18pm Eastern. Now, he’s talking about his mother. No mention of Aunt Zeituni or the brother in the Kenyan shanty.

8:19pm Eastern. BITTER HALF ALERT. Michelle Obama praises The One’s fathering skills. “He doesn’t forget anything.”

Oh, dear. They just showed the clip of him proclaiming, “I am my brother’s keeper.”

Quintuple-snort-worthy.

*Link added: USATODAY.com - Barack Obama's remarks at the Democratic convention

8:20pm Eastern. SMIRKY JOE ALERT. Me, too. Me, too. Smirky’s a working-class, regular Joe, too!

8. Another couple facing hard times, layoffs.

9) Obama promises to be Mr. Tough on national security. He’ll bolster the military. (Not if Barney Frank has his say.)

*Video Added Barrack on defense:



Guffaw: A supporter says he wants a leader who is devoted to the Constitution.

Sorry, I am having a snort attack.

*Video Added- Barracks shows distain for Constitution’ limited government:



Gag: A slideshow of glowy, Messianic photos flashes by. Obama hugs. Obama empathizes. Obama heeeaaaaals.

All hail the Lightworker. Fixer of Souls. Spreader of Wealth.

8:26pm Eastern. Bill Suck-Up Richardson makes an appearance. Auditioning for Energy Secretary or something.

Finally: Website pluggage: barackobama.com. Go. Now.

The Obama Programming Project is complete.

See Blog: Michelle Malkin Obama TV: Dear Leader’s infomercial

*Videos and links I added.

I am not a big Michelle Malkin fan but she has some good points:

1. Government want's to seiz 401ks
2. Dems= Government is the answer
3. Wealth redistribution :Brothers Keeper"
4. Barrack is hostile towards idea of limited governemt

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WASHINGTON – Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was less than upfront in his half-hour commercial Wednesday night about the costs of his programs and the crushing budget pressures he would face in office.

Obama's assertion that "I've offered spending cuts above and beyond" the expense of his promises is accepted only by his partisans. His vow to save money by "eliminating programs that don't work" masks his failure throughout the campaign to specify what those programs are — beyond the withdrawal of troops from Iraq.

A sampling of what voters heard in the ad, and what he didn't tell them:
THE SPIN: "That's why my health care plan includes improving information technology, requires coverage for preventive care and pre-existing conditions and lowers health care costs for the typical family by $2,500 a year."

THE FACTS: His plan does not lower premiums by $2,500, or any set amount. Obama hopes that by spending $50 billion over five years on electronic medical records and by improving access to proven disease management programs, among other steps, consumers will end up saving money. He uses an optimistic analysis to suggest cost reductions in national health care spending could amount to the equivalent of $2,500 for a family of four. Many economists are skeptical those savings can be achieved, but even if they are, it's not a certainty that every dollar would be passed on to consumers in the form of lower premiums.

Link:

Obama's prime-time ad skips over budget realities - Yahoo! News

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Ghost

medical records have to go electronic, weve been hoping for that for years over here.
paper based is idiotic, costs more and is slow.

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darrianation

I agree it is overkill however I still stand by:

The dems will take your 401k (increase dividend taxes) and link retirement accounts to social security (government control.



Obama says he’ll bolster defense but this is what he’s promises in his own words.



And the limitations placed on government by the constitution frustrates him.



All true!

And Marines go to Berkley:

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darrianation

For you Ghost.

Read

Firearms and Freedom

Some Facts about guns and gun control (educate yourself):

Gun Control Facts

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We the Unorganized Militia

By Randy E. Barnett is the Austin B. Fletcher Professor at Boston University and the author of The Structure of Liberty: Justice and the Rule of Law.

September 18, 2001 11:30 a.m.

"Well-regulated militia being essential to the security of a free state..." The next time someone tells you that the militia referred to in the Second Amendment has been "superceded" by the National Guard, ask them who it was that prevented United Airlines Flight 93 from reaching its target. The National Guard? The regular Army? The D.C. Police Department? None of these had a presence on Flight 93 because, in a free society, professional law-enforcement and military personnel cannot be everywhere. Terrorists and criminals are well aware of this - indeed, they count on it. Who is everywhere? The people the Founders referred to as the "general militia." Cell-phone calls from the plane have now revealed that it was members of the general militia, not organized law enforcement, who successfully prevented Flight 93 from reaching its intended target at the cost of their own lives.

The characterization of these heroes as members of the militia is not just the opinion of one law professor. It is clearly stated in Federal statutes. Perhaps you will not believe me unless I quote section 311 of US Code Title 10, entitled, "Militia: composition and classes" in its entirety (with emphases added):

"(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

(b) The classes of the militia are -

(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia."

This is not to score political points at a moment of great tragedy, though had the murderers on these four airplanes been armed with guns rather than knives, reminders of this fact would never end. Rather, that it was militia members who saved whatever was the terrorists' target - whether the White House or the Capitol - at the cost of their lives points in the direction of practical steps - in some cases the only practical steps - to reduce the damage cause by any future attacks.

An excellent beginning was provided by Dave Kopel and David Petteys in their NRO column "Making the Air Safe for Terror." Whether or not their specific recommendations are correct, they are too important to be ignored and they are not the only persons to reach similar conclusions about the need for effective self-defense. Refusing to discuss what measures really worked, what really failed, and what is likely to really work in future attacks - on airplanes and in other public spaces - for reasons of political correctness would be unconscionable. And we need to place this discussion in its larger constitutional context.

Asking all of us if we packed our own bags did not stop this attack. X-rays of all carry-on baggage did not stop this attack (though it may well have confined the attackers to using knives). And preventing us from using e-tickets or checking our bags at the street (for how long?) would neither have stopped this nor any future attack. All these new "security" proposals will merely inconvenience millions of citizens driving them away from air travel and seriously harming our economy and our freedom. As others have noted, it would be a victory for these murderers rather than an effective way to stop them in the future. A way around them will always be open to determined mass murderers. More importantly, none bear any relation to the attack that actually occurred on September 11th.

Ask yourself every time you hear a proposal for increased "security": Would have in any way have averted the disaster that actually happened? Will it avert a future suicide attack on the public by other new and different means? Any realistic response to what happened and is likely to happen in the future must acknowledge that, when the next moment of truth arrives in whatever form, calling 911 will not work. Training our youth to be helpless in the face of an attack, avoiding violence at all costs will not work. There will always be foreign and domestic wolves to prey on the sheep we raise. And the next attack is unlikely to take the same form as the ones we just experienced. We must adopt measures that promise some relief incircumstances we cannot now imagine.

Here is the cold hard fact of the matter that will be evaded and denied but which must never be forgotten in these discussions: Often - whether on an airplane, subway, cruise ship, or in a high school - only self defense by the "unorganized militia" will be available when domestic or foreign terrorists chose their next moment of murder. And here is the public-policy implication of this fact: It would be better if the militia were more prepared to act when it is needed.

If the general militia is now "unorganized" and neutered - if it is not well-regulated - whose fault is it? Article I of the Constitution gives Congress full power "to provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the Militia." The Second Amendment was included in the Bill of Rights in large part because many feared that Congress would neglect the militia (as it has) and, Congress could not be forced by any constitutional provision to preserve the militia, the only practical means of ensuring its continued existed was to protect the right of individual militia members to keep and bear their own private arms. Nevertheless, it remains the responsibility of Congress to see to it that the general militia is "well-regulated."

A well-regulated militia does not require a draft or any compulsory training. Nor, as Alexander Hamilton recognized, need training be universal. "To attempt such a thing which would abridge the mass of labor and industry to so considerable extent, would be unwise," he wrote in Federalist 29, "and the experiment, if made, could not succeed, because it would not long be endured." But Congress has the constitutional power to create training programs in effective self-defense including training in small arms - marksmanship, tactics, and gun safety - for any American citizen who volunteers. Any guess how many millions would take weapons training at government expense or even for a modest fee if generally offered?

Rather than provide for training and encouraging persons to be able to defend themselves - and to exercise their training responsibly - powerful lobbying groups have and will continue to advocate passivity and disarmament. The vociferous anti-self-defense, anti-gun crusaders of the past decades will not give up now. Instead they will shift our focus to restrictions on American liberties that will be ineffective against future attacks. Friday on Fox, Democratic Minority Leader Dick Gephart was asked whether additional means we have previously eschewed should be employed to capture and combat foreign terrorists. His reply was appalling. Now was the time, he replied, to consider adopting a national identity card and that we would have to consider how much information such "smart" cards would contain.

Rather than make war on the American people and their liberties, however, Congress should be looking for ways to empower them to protect themselves when warranted. The Founders knew - and put in the form of a written guarantee - the proposition that the individual right to keep and bear arms as the principal means of preserving a militia that was "essential," in a free state, to provide personal and collective self-defense against criminals of all stripes, both domestic and foreign.

A renewed commitment to a well-regulated militia would not be a panacea for crime and terrorism, but neither will any other course of action now being recommended or adopted. We have long been told that, in a modern world, the militia is obsolete. Put aside the fact that the importance of the militia to a "the security of a free state" is hardwired into the text of the Constitution. The events of this week have shown that the militia is far from obsolete in a world where war is waged by cells as well as states. It is long past time we heeded the words of the Founders and end the systematic effort to disarm Americans. Now is also the time to consider what it would take in practical terms to well- regulate the now-unorganized militia, so no criminal will feel completely secure when confronting one or more of its members.

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Why do we have the second amendment?

Thomas Jefferson:

“No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms [within his own lands].”

"Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God."

“The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed.”

“And what country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.


George Washington:

"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the people's liberty teeth keystone... the rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable... more than 99% of them by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference. When firearms go, all goes, we need them every hour." (Address to 1st session of Congress)

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Liberty…

As government grows in size and power individual liberty shrinks and is weakened.

It is true that we are not as free as we once were with many governmental intrusions into our lives. Freedoms are taken through such things as internationalism and treaties signed with the UN that erodes our sovereignty giving authority to international bodies piece meal.

Many of our freedoms have been taken under the guise of “safety” such as warranties wiretaps and anti-gun legislation, etc.

Benjamin Franklin (one of our nation’s founders) once said, “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

Other liberties have been taken by the welfare state creating huge inefficient bureaucracies at the tax payers expense and socialization of our economy.

In each of these incidences it is big government that is slowly but steadily striping the population of individual freedoms.

…Government is the enemy of the freeman.

Some Quotes by Thomas Jefferson:

“When the government fears the people there is liberty; when the people fear the government there is tyranny.”

“The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.”

On Taxes- “To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.”

“A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circle of our felicity.” ---First Inaugural Addres.

“That government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves.”

“The price of freedom is eternal vigilance”

Origins of liberty- “God who gave us life gave us liberty.”

What we are seeing now- “Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.”

“An elective despotism was not the government we fought for, but one which should not only be founded on true free principles, but in which the powers of government should be so divided and balanced among general bodies of magistracy, as that no one could transcend their legal limits without being effectually checked and restrained by the others.”

And finally- “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.” -- Declaration of Independence

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darrianation

Ghost, I hope the above posts clears up any questions you have about the 2nd amendment and why we have it and the ideas we hold dear about freedom.

And if you take a honest look you can see Big government and liberalism is the antithesis to our American ideals and values.

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Ghost

i understand and did cover this in school many moons ago, but the world has changed since then hasnt it. and times move on.

Its more like holding on for nostalgia to me.
The rest of the world gets by better without them and i think you would do better without them too.
We live politically and military stable countries, so stable we need not worry about foreign invasion, though you have got a lunatic leader right now

BUT as i said before, why cant you do it like sweden?
THats the best balance surely. It was you that pointed out to me initially how it runs there and it sounds great to me.
Id actually like that, id prefer that to no guns, to have the situation they have in Sweden.
But id take no weapons over the violent mess that is the USA. The rest of the west is much more peaceful internally, but there are probably a lot more factors involved but those factors + guns = disaster imo.

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