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Old 07-01-2003, 08:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Building bridges {Metaphore}

Ok metaphoreman speaks
If you want to learn how to build bridges there are 3 ways to learn
1st learn everything about bricks, mortar, concrete and steel
learn how to build modules, learn how to connect modules and then train connecting the modules without actually making a bridge

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learn that there are bricks, mortar, concrete and steel but do not learn everything about them, and then start to build tryout bridges, it doesn't matter if they collapse because they weren't intended to use but do say they are REAL bridges

3rd learn that there are concrete and steel and make toybridges out of them and think because you can make toy bridges that you can make real bridges too, even though you don't even know all the materials

Of coarse I'm really talking about MA but which is which
Anyone knowing the 3rd one gets a bonus
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Old 07-01-2003, 10:27 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Good one Tody. You forgot the 4th one:

Learn about bricks, concrete, mortar and steel; learn how to connect modules, learn strain and load-bearing structures, build a functional bridge that works and then tear it down because the critics did not like the style of architecture..
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Ok I'll tell 1 and 2
1 is of coarse Karate and other trad arts
2 would be BJJ
3........ well do you know what is left where students of it consider it to be the best thing around ( the country it comes from used to start with an S)
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My no. 4 would have been JKD.
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well to bve honest number 3 is a bit of a tease but 1 and 2 are serious
Both make claims about being able to build bridges but none are actually mading one that is being used in real life instead they either keep making trial bridges to stay upto date or keep pounding the theory and practice with fake materials
occasionally some-one of both parties might build a bridge
But both parties claim that the other can't build bridges

number 3 thinks both 1 and 2 won't ever be able to build a bridge
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Gee, maybe I'm standing too close to the forest, but I don't think that any of those methods is a good way to learn to build a bridge. I suggest something more like the following:

- Learn integral calculus sufficient to handle undergraduate level physics
- Learn the basics of statics
- Learn the basics of computer aided design programs such as CATEA
- Study the dimensions of the area you want to span
- Obtain information on a site survey on the hydrogeology and stability of the soils you're working with
- Study city zoning ordnances, right of ways and traffic projections
- Select the materials you will be working with (Most CAD programs have the properties of common building materials already built into them)
- Work up a couple of designs
- Use the computer program to simulate stresses such as earthquakes, liquefaction, settling, collissions, wind. At what point does it break?
- Take your design to a professor or professional architect to see what they think.
- Incorporate their suggestions.

Practice this several times and then consider getting some other engineering job. Bridge design gigs are few and far between.

Sorry, but I can't seem to make any useful analogy to martial arts here.
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Yeah - and what sort of bridge is it when you decide to get more 'real' with your training partner and finish training with two cracked ribs? ouch.

I'm sticking to lego bridges for a while...
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what martial art has a timelimited training
What MA considers you capable after you stopped training for 5 or more years?
Most if not all MA take a continueous training
Martial Artists find it suspicious if a selfdefence course us limited in time
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Ok I'll tell 1 and 2
1 is of coarse Karate and other trad arts
2 would be BJJ
3........ well do you know what is left where students of it consider it to be the best thing around ( the country it comes from used to start with an S)
Is 3 supposed to be Muay Thai? Thailand used to be called Siam.

I would say that most of the bridge builders only concentrate on one part of the bridge, although this makes them very good at the part they concentrate on, it means that most are incapable of building a complete bridge without the help of other bridge building techniques.
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Lizard get's double bonus points, not only did he get the art he also got the point
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