Hollywood MAtists - Page 3

falcon3624 · 07-17-2003, 09:54 AM

I am not worried that much about getting struck cuz I take a lick pretty good. I have only been knocked out in one fight in my life (compliments of a steel pipe). I got stuck the other night in training by a good hook kick to the jaw........hurt like hell but didn't let it phase me.

When I fight I try to keep it standing as long as possible. I prefer to strike than grapple although I can do both....

Ryu (JKD?) · 07-17-2003, 09:55 AM

I friggin hate Jet Li......

Ryu

Ghost · 07-17-2003, 09:56 AM

Im sure you will do well you sound like you train like a monster.

ewod · 07-17-2003, 10:35 PM

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Originally posted by Strepto
Who do you think would be the last man standing in a "free-for-all" between these hollywood martial artists?
- Jet Li
- Jean-Claude Van Dam
- Steven Seagal
- The Rock
- That old Japanese dude from Karate Kid

jet li and van damme are jokes...the rock isnt a martial artist and pat morita isnt either, so they are outta the picture...seagal would take it...

Toudiyama[NL] · 07-18-2003, 09:17 AM

the only actionstart(not MA) that was a real Worldchampion as opposed to WC of America like Noris and Lewis or WC from Belgium like JC van Damme is Zwartzenegger he really was the bodybuilding champ of the world

the Rock is just a fysical actor
WWE is just one big soap-opera (with Mcmahon as the scriptwriter)

mr. bond · 07-18-2003, 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by falcon3624
You forget the fact that Jean-Claude, the rock, Jet Li, and the old guy from karate kid don't even know martial arts.......lol

jet li? you're crazy, man.

while wushu might not be the most combat-effective martial art, jet knows his stuff. in fist of legend, he shows that he can throw any of your basic strikes. and he's just bloody fast, even past his prime. if you watch that kicking duel he has with that weird white guy in kiss of the dragon, it's really amazingly fast, and they slowed the film down a notch.

he used to train for hours and hours on end when he was on the national team for wushu in china. that must have drilled his techniques in well.

ewod · 07-18-2003, 09:06 PM

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Originally posted by mr. bond

jet li? you're crazy, man.

while wushu might not be the most combat-effective martial art, jet knows his stuff. in fist of legend, he shows that he can throw any of your basic strikes. and he's just bloody fast, even past his prime. if you watch that kicking duel he has with that weird white guy in kiss of the dragon, it's really amazingly fast, and they slowed the film down a notch.

he used to train for hours and hours on end when he was on the national team for wushu in china. that must have drilled his techniques in well.

movies dont reflect his real skill mr. bond...

anyone can look good on screen...

mr. bond · 07-18-2003, 09:22 PM

but if you don't know how to throw a punch, you don't know how to throw a punch...it doesn't matter much whether you're on camera or not. my point about jet li was that he is really quite incredibly fast, and he has put in a lot of time in the MA, as well as having at least the base techniques down. i don't think he's winning the next UFC, but at least he's a legit martial artist.

RobertG · 07-18-2003, 09:51 PM

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Originally posted by ewod

movies dont reflect his real skill mr. bond... anyone can look good on screen...

Yeah, exactly the point I've been trying to make with you as you insist Seagal could actually survive 10 seconds with Lennox Lewis.

ewod · 07-18-2003, 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by RobertG

Yeah, exactly the point I've been trying to make with you as you insist Seagal could actually survive 10 seconds with Lennox Lewis.

yes, I still believe he can robert...ever heard of blocking punches? tyson is a maniac and hes in a league all by himself...seagal could take lewis out and im standing by my opinion...

ryanhall · 07-18-2003, 11:32 PM

Wow. More ewod and more of a wasted thread. Moved to open access, gents. Blocking punches only works for a second, and even then, only on certain types of punches. It's not going to save you from combinations.

falcon3624 · 07-19-2003, 12:09 AM

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Originally posted by mr. bond

jet li? you're crazy, man.

while wushu might not be the most combat-effective martial art, jet knows his stuff. in fist of legend, he shows that he can throw any of your basic strikes. and he's just bloody fast, even past his prime. if you watch that kicking duel he has with that weird white guy in kiss of the dragon, it's really amazingly fast, and they slowed the film down a notch.

he used to train for hours and hours on end when he was on the national team for wushu in china. that must have drilled his techniques in well.

Okay Jet Li takes Wushu

Like I said he is no real martial artist

falcon3624 · 07-19-2003, 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by ewod

yes, I still believe he can robert...ever heard of blocking punches? tyson is a maniac and hes in a league all by himself...seagal could take lewis out and im standing by my opinion...

I did aikido for 15yrs. and I have seen Seagal many times.....he could not take out Lewis......sorry

mr_clean · 07-19-2003, 01:51 PM

you guys all forgot that famous martial artist David Carradine! He'd poke the Rock in the eye with his flute and then stumble away into the dessert! LOL Where would the Fonze and Nelson from the Simpsons fit in? None of the really good martial artists (except maybe Bruce Lee) could act worth a toot so they had to use good looking and acting guys that aren't really martial artists.

I really liked the joke about Samo Hung's brother well! Good one Thai! Hahaha.

mr. bond · 07-19-2003, 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by falcon3624

Okay Jet Li takes Wushu

Like I said he is no real martial artist

any martial art(except pure grappling ones) will at least teach you all the right basic techniques like your jab, cross, hook, round(house) kick, etc. put those tools in the hands of a speed demon like Li and you've got yourself one hell of a fight on your hands. it'd be the same with an untrained guy who was that quick, he'll give you a damn lot of trouble.

07-17-2003, 09:55 AM	#32 (permalink)
Ryu (JKD?) Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 623 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I friggin hate Jet Li...... Ryu __________________ Sekkendo...

07-18-2003, 09:17 AM	#35 (permalink)
Toudiyama[NL] Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Zaandam, Netherlands Posts: 1,389 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	the only actionstart(not MA) that was a real Worldchampion as opposed to WC of America like Noris and Lewis or WC from Belgium like JC van Damme is Zwartzenegger he really was the bodybuilding champ of the world the Rock is just a fysical actor WWE is just one big soap-opera (with Mcmahon as the scriptwriter) __________________

07-18-2003, 09:22 PM	#38 (permalink)
mr. bond Novice Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 58 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	but if you don't know how to throw a punch, you don't know how to throw a punch...it doesn't matter much whether you're on camera or not. my point about jet li was that he is really quite incredibly fast, and he has put in a lot of time in the MA, as well as having at least the base techniques down. i don't think he's winning the next UFC, but at least he's a legit martial artist. __________________ I hope that after I die, people will say of me: "That guy sure owed me a lot of money."

07-18-2003, 11:32 PM	#41 (permalink)
ryanhall Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,247 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Wow. More ewod and more of a wasted thread. Moved to open access, gents. Blocking punches only works for a second, and even then, only on certain types of punches. It's not going to save you from combinations. __________________ "Ray, when someone asks you if you're a god, you say YES!" Last edited by ryanhall; 07-18-2003 at 11:35 PM.

07-19-2003, 01:51 PM	#44 (permalink)
mr_clean Novice Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cobourg, Ontario, Canada Posts: 13 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	David Carradine... you guys all forgot that famous martial artist David Carradine! He'd poke the Rock in the eye with his flute and then stumble away into the dessert! LOL Where would the Fonze and Nelson from the Simpsons fit in? None of the really good martial artists (except maybe Bruce Lee) could act worth a toot so they had to use good looking and acting guys that aren't really martial artists. I really liked the joke about Samo Hung's brother well! Good one Thai! Hahaha.

07-17-2003, 09:54 AM	#31 (permalink)
falcon3624 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Louisiana Posts: 946 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I am not worried that much about getting struck cuz I take a lick pretty good. I have only been knocked out in one fight in my life (compliments of a steel pipe). I got stuck the other night in training by a good hook kick to the jaw........hurt like hell but didn't let it phase me. When I fight I try to keep it standing as long as possible. I prefer to strike than grapple although I can do both....

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