jules

The early UFC's are the closest thing to a real one on one fight because no attack roughts are closed (at least the early UFC fights). As i said. The "fight" we are talking about is not a fight in a croweded bar but rather "who would win if two people were locked up in a cage for an unlimited ammount of time?".

S.Anucha

If I was to end up on the ground with someone who could actually fight and had more knowledge than me with ground grappling then yes dude I probably would be up shit creek.

But as I said I would imagine, from the amount of bull that I keep reading and hearing from most of these MMA's, that they cant really fight and some have never even really fought so with these guys no problem, with a UFC fighter in UFC obviously I would not fight him without firstly watching a tape of who it was I was going to fight, asking my trainer who he is, what his strategy is, his weakness and his strengths, then i would ask my trainer to train me (I wouldnt need to ask as he would do that anyway) to fight this individual.... know what i mean. If he wasnt really hot at ground grappling then damn I would be fine with what i know! as for stand up.... bring any UFC fighter at my weight and my level into a Muay Thai ring and have him fight me, it works both ways but as this argument is slowely turning into a MuayThai vs UFC debate I am not going to post as it was at first a UFC is not reality.... see how things change.

SOUTHPAW

WTF is the deal with UFC?? I personally have a hard time watching it because, frankly, it isn't very exciting. To compare it with Muay Thai is foolish. They are totally separate. MT is a ring sport with specific rules, brutal for sure, but there are rules. Not too much to discuss. If you want to talk about a street fight, talk about what caliber of handgun you like best.
I do have to agree with S.Anucha though. How many of these UFC fans and internet gym rats have any real fight experience? Having said that, three fights does not make a career bro' Keep training and good luck in Thailand.

jubaji

"us"

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HuSanYan

S Anucha, I whole heartedly agree with you and very much like what you say above in quote marks and in your original thread starter post.

As I recall from another thread sometime ago you are a fellow military man?, good on ya is all i can say and i think that a lot of this crap from the MMA leotard wearers is down to age as in adolescence.

I remember seeing a brief series on TV in the UK called "Cage Warriors" and there was this one young fella who was preparing for his fight and what a pillock, what with all the shadow boxing with full noises right outsite his house so that the neighbours could see, he also went to this freaked out night club where they have something called 'hardcore' and he was doing all these flying kicks along with the boxing stuff as a kind of dance type of thing.

God, he was sad, and another thing was that he was from a well to do family with loads of money to pay for training etc etc..
needless to say he was beat in the cage in about 1 and a half mins (KO'd), what a pratt.

Oh, and finally, I beat up the Gracie Bros just last week me little old self as you can read about in the


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tekshow

if you weren't cussing and yelling i'd probably have an easier time listening to your argument, but it sounds like you want MuayThai to be the superior art... and well that isn't the case....


they are both efficient at their designed ranges...


i used to hate the ground, and to be honest, it was a mystery, and i was scared when i was taken down to that point. In real life did i ever get to the ground? no... but that doesn't mean it won't happen or that it's not a practical skill to be knowledgeable with...


i agree with you, but look you're on the internet, do you think you're going to find the real deal out here. We know the internet to be full of frauds and BS... so why complain about it.


be content with your training, because there's no way you're going to sway a fanboy regardless of his preference....



i tell you now that i am comfortable fighting on the ground i really enjoy it, it's simple and easy, and those who don't know much about the ground are pretty much my human pretzel until i want to let them go...


in a nightclub while fighting six people is it going to be advantageous to go to the ground, hell no! but that's not why i train it.... i'm learning to be proficient in all ranges is a must....


for the night club i know i could grab a pool cue and turn it into an escrima stick, or do a hip throw without going to the ground and toss an opponent into his oncoming friend... etc....



and i think any real grappler, even the gracies will tell you UFC is not reality. they too think it is strangled by too many rules, marketing, and cages



so just find the training your happy with, settle in, and then when you get time to test it, disprove the guy on the other side of the ring/street/gym



peace,
joe

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Szczepankiewicz

Well, that certainly taught me....


So, in other words, you are ashamed, but too proud to admit it?


Describe in single words only the good things that come into your mind about... your mother.

jubaji

Ha! shows what you know. I'm too stupid and morally bankrupt to feel shame!

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Szczepankiewicz

For once, we agree %100.


As an aside, careful with that finger. You may injure it and your woman will leave fer sure.

jubaji

If I didn't have something better than the finger, she'd have left by now!

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Szczepankiewicz

Big checking account eh?

jubaji

It does attract a lot of interest

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kid_chocolate

This post is not directly directed at anyone personally so relax.

Direct quotes from a Muay Thai Master:
I am not knocking the effectivness of ground grappling....but when they do go to the ground it is because of lack of fighting ability and bad balance and no control....UFC guys are born fighters thats why they are so tough and just because you will train in what they train in doesnt mean that you then become instant UFC fighter...!

More Muay Thai anti-logic:
Face the facts, UFC has only proven one thing....concentrate on Muay Thai skills....

But then:
UFC is boring, its like watching paint dry, or Muay Thai.... to say the least....

The best anti-logic of all:
its dumb to compare any ringsport with reality....if you want to learn real street self defence I would recommend....simply join a Muay Thai gym. The ringsport of Muay Thai is the first thing I would learn for street self defense, THE FIRST and foremost, why? well because its the easiest ringsport to learn, mix that with the type of person you are and you will....have a ringsport for the streets.

Szczepankiewicz

And this post isn't directed at anyone personally either.

Bri Thai is a fat arsed monkey palmed sheep lover.


Yeah, no offense meant.

S.Anucha

You are right, damn I have only begun to understand and contain the adrenilan freak outs at the start of my fights! I have a fourth at the end of this month in Galway Ireland.