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Old 11-30-2005, 11:27 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Actually, I think that Arabs who are willing to stay in Israel with personal rights but not national rights, as non-citizens, should be permitted to stay. Even though other Arab countries have room for ALL of them ten times over.

And that's not what's been going on so far. What's been going on so far is concession after concession after concession-to terrorists! Like giving away land that so many soldiers have died for--for NOTHING.

Or hey, BoarSpear, going with your analogy, maybe we can move all the Arabs to New Orleans.
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Old 11-30-2005, 11:30 PM   #32 (permalink)
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yes you and the former first ladies have alot in common...you all spout "just say no" and of course...."drugs are bad"....from over the top of your glass of booze

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Old 11-30-2005, 11:32 PM   #33 (permalink)
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yes you and the former first ladies have alot in common...you all spout "just say no" and of course...."drugs are bad"....from over the top of your glass of booze

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Thanks, I will. If you cook up any ideas more reasonable than the infantile crap you've offered so far, let me know.
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Actually, I think that Arabs who are willing to stay in Israel with personal rights but not national rights, as non-citizens, should be permitted to stay. Even though other Arab countries have room for ALL of them ten times over.

And that's not what's been going on so far. What's been going on so far is concession after concession after concession-to terrorists! Like giving away land that so many soldiers have died for--for NOTHING.

Or hey, BoarSpear, going with your analogy, maybe we can move all the Arabs to New Orleans.
thats about an American attitude as it gets...The British didnt have the right to give the Arabs land away in the first place...now we fund a holy shitting contest...dont bother telling me its not...Ive been there, and exchanged unpleasantries up close and personally with dissenters.

good idea though throw the original people out on their ears...they are savages anyway. Then we can build a proper civilization that worships like we do. Where have i heard that idea before....

hey, maybe we should send the Arabs some blankets...
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Old 11-30-2005, 11:40 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Thanks, I will. If you cook up any ideas more reasonable than the infantile crap you've offered so far, let me know.
stock up on duct tape and plastic sheets then buddy boy...Take THAT piece of very Mature and honest advice from your elected leaders.
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stock up on duct tape and plastic sheets then buddy boy...Take THAT piece of very Mature and honest advice from your elected leaders.

You're high right now, aren't you? Sniffing the glue on the back of your Ralph Nader for President bumper stickers?
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This issue isn't about land. Before there was a state of Israel, Arabs were already massacring Jews--in 1929, 1936 to 1939, as well as declaring war on the Jews in 1948, 1956, 1967, with the slogan "throw the Jews into the sea." I'm sure there'll be more violence against Jews soon, since the US is supplying depleted uranium to Egypt, which is preparing for another war with Israel. And you can say what you want about Native Americans, but the fact is that they were not targetting civilians with bus bombs. And as far as THAT analogy goes, why don't you ask yourself what gives you the right to say that an entire country that people have DIED to protect should be "moved" to Louisiana, Mr. Emminent Domain. Israel was formed on the ashes of Auschwitz, and don't you ever forget it.

You can also read in Israeli news that Al Qaeda has taken over Gaza (they got in through the Egyptian border) thanks to the good ol' U.S. of A. who demanded Egypt open the border, and denied Israel access to monitor it.

Holy shitting contest? If that's what you call trying to protect yourself and your land... Israel is fighting for their very existence, while being surrounded by enemis that are sworn to annihilating them. Appeasement isn't an option.

Hey BoarSpear, what's the answer to a war of ideology?

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This issue isn't about land. Before there was a state of Israel, Arabs were already massacring Jews--in 1929, 1936 to 1939, as well as declaring war on the Jews in 1948, 1956, 1967, with the slogan "throw the Jews into the sea." I'm sure there'll be more violence against Jews soon, since the US is supplying depleted uranium to Egypt, which is preparing for another war with Israel. And you can say what you want about Native Americans, but the fact is that they were not targetting civilians with bus bombs. And as far as THAT analogy goes, why don't you ask yourself what gives you the right to say that an entire country that people have DIED to protect should be "moved" to Louisiana, Mr. Emminent Domain. Israel was formed on the ashes of Auschwitz, and don't you ever forget it.

You can also read in Israeli news that Al Qaeda has taken over Gaza (they got in through the Egyptian border) thanks to the good ol' U.S. of A. who demanded Egypt open the border, and denied Israel access to monitor it.

Holy shitting contest? If that's what you call trying to protect yourself and your land... Israel is fighting for their very existence, while being surrounded by enemis that are sworn to annihilating them. Appeasement isn't an option.

Hey BoarSpear, what's the answer to a war of ideology?

Koach v'ahavah,
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HMMM you have very strong views...perhaps you should move a little closer to the fight...also little miss smartass learn some geography Auschwitz WAS NOT LOCATED IN THE MIDDLE EAST but by your claim perhaps they should have been given Germany? if it isnt about the religion why give the Jews that particular spot???

glad youre aware of the depleted uranium...but youre still too damn hardheaded to forsee glowing in the dark??...
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Wow, This thread sure degenerated fast!
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I know I signed on the dotted line, agreed to defend the constitution, and the freedom of the people of the United States of America. And I'm here, right now, in this rathole of a country, "helping the Iraqi people find freedom" - but this really takes the cake. How can the US defend Saddam, after all the time we spent hunting him, verbaly instructed not to kill him, so the Iraqi people could be allowed to try him. I hunt insurgents for a living - am I going to have to stop shooting them, so the US can provide lawyers for them?
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If that's what you call trying to protect yourself and your land... Israel is fighting for their very existence... Appeasement isn't an option.

When everybody thinks they are fighting for their lives, no one can quit fighting - that is the basic problem. Somebody has got to find a third way - call that appeasement if you like.
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When everybody thinks they are fighting for their lives, no one can quit fighting - that is the basic problem. Somebody has got to find a third way - call that appeasement if you like.
Would you say the same thing about the U.S. fighting Al Qaeda?
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HMMM you have very strong views...perhaps you should move a little closer to the fight...
I plan on it.

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also little miss smartass learn some geography Auschwitz WAS NOT LOCATED IN THE MIDDLE EAST but by your claim perhaps they should have been given Germany? if it isnt about the religion why give the Jews that particular spot???
Maybe you should learn some geography too--since the Arabs came to Israel (as trespassers) from Arabia. They aren't native to Israel. Furthermore, there were Jews living in Israel since they were exiled by the Romans.

Also Arabs were OFFERED their own state in 1948 and turned it down. Please do some research on the history of this conflict.

And if you lose a war for land (or five wars over land) and then try to lay claim to it later...please...

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I take this as meaning that you're out of logical arguments and have to resort to insults?
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Would you say the same thing about the U.S. fighting Al Qaeda?
exactly what is Al Qaeda's compliant with the USA...do you even know?
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exactly what is Al Qaeda's compliant with the USA...do you even know?
Answer the question.
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